Canada to announce all new cars must be zero emissions by 2035::Canada expects to announce this week that all new cars will have to be zero emissions by 2035, a senior government source said, as Ottawa is set to unveil new regulations in the latest example of countries around the world pushing for electrification.

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      *brake

      And it should, it’s fairly toxic. Fortunately EV’s primarily and almost exclusively use regen.

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        Then there’s tire and road wear, which increase substantially with the heavier weight of EVs.

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            I’ve commented on this before, though I couldn’t find it to plagiarise myself.

            Ford puma ICE: 1280KG
            Nissan leaf BEV: 1580KG
            Ford F150: 2134 KG
            Range Rover: 2513KG

            Honestly, tax weight and emissions. Emissions tax the energy put in the vehicle, and charge extra for high emissions in dense areas.

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            I also advocate for smaller cars, but batteries are heavy as fuck. The same car just swapping the motor with a battery will be considerably heavier.

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                And they will. Why have a 600 mile battery? Your bladder won’t last that long on the highway. Have a 300-400 mile battery and cut the weight.

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              The spelling is non-sequitur. And it’s not that, the idea is that vehicles are already much heavier than they should be by use. For example a Tesla Model 3 is much lighter than the two most popular car models being sold in Canada, despite being an EV.

              By the way, the biggest contributors to road and tire wear are heavy freight trucks, so instead of jerking off about EVs vs non-EVs, maybe building a decent railway infrastructure would actually help on that front, while also removing some cars on long road trips from the roads.

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          Cars getting fatter has been an increasing issue for decades. Some of the people responsible for that are some of the same people now using tire and road wear as a talking point against EVs.

          At least with EVs, there’s a path to getting it back down. The primary weight is the battery. Instead of having a 600 mile range EV (which is pointless), have a 300-400 mile range and cut the battery weight down accordingly.

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      Of the direct operational sources of pollution:

      • co2 - none
      • ozone and exhaust particulates - none
      • brake dust - almost none
      • oil and fuel leaks - none
      • tire dust - 20% more

      EVs may not be perfect but they’re a HUGE improvement.

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        Even the 20% more tyre wear… That should mean I need to replace tyres faster. I’ve had one new set in 5 years on my EV (at about year 4). My old car was every other year. Sure compounds change, but I’m just not seeing more tyre wear.

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      You mean the brakes that, if driven properly, are hardly ever used in an EV, and may last the life of the vehicle?

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      Don’t look at what powers the power plants. Just sit back and think you’re enjoying your zero emissions cars