• Wrench@lemmy.world
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    Uhh, I don’t know how that’s a positive for Bill. That’s creepy as fuck. You go to visit a “good friend” and he has some young escorts join you for dinner?

    Yeah. I think Clinton was a good enough president and all, but that situation is disgusting.

    And I shamelessly enjoy places where the (adult) girls serve you food and beverages in lingerie.

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      On the next page or two it goes on to say that whole story is probably fictitious and Bill was likely never there.

      Edit: Found it (sorry for the fomatting)

      Former FBI Director Louis Freeh submitted a report wherein he concluded that President Clinton “did not, in fact travel to, nor was he present on, Little St. James Island between January 1, 2001 and January 1, 2003.” Menninger Decl., Ex. C. Further, if any Secret Service agents had accompanied Clinton to that location, “they would have been required to make and file shift logs, travel vouchers, and related documentation relating to the visit,” and there was a “total absence” of any such documentation. Id. Remarkably, Plaintiff now even denies telling Churcher that she ever witnessed Ms. Maxwell flying President Clinton or his Secret Service anywhere, or joking with Clinton about “what a good job she did.” Menninger Decl., Ex. D. Plaintiff’s counsel remarkably instructed Plaintiff not to answer any additional questions about the other things Sharon Churcher inaccurately reported. Id. Lending even more incredulity to Plaintiff’s story, Ms. Maxwell only received her pilot’s license in mid-1999 casting insurmountable doubt that a recently retired president and his staff would be permitted to fly with her at the helm. With the record thus, Plaintiff’s claims about Clinton’s presence on the Island and the fully concocted story about the dinner party that occurred thereon totally debunked by the former head of the FBI and with Plaintiff now disclaiming she ever witnessed the Secret Service or Case 1:15-cv-07433-LAP Document 1320-28 Filed 01/03/24 Page 11 of 32 9 President Clinton being flown in a helicopter by Ghislaine Maxwell, the relevance of any testimony he might add (i.e., confirm that he was, as Louis Freeh determined, never on the Island) is non-existent. The only purpose for seeking this deposition is for the calculated media strategy that Plaintiff and her publicity-seeking attorneys have devised. Plaintiff failed to disclose President Clinton as a witness until June 1, failed to notice his deposition, failed to diligently pursue a subpoena on him and he has no relevant testimony to offer. Accordingly, Plaintiff’s leave to modify the scheduling order to permit his deposition should be denied

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      “as far as she knows, the ex-President did not take the bait.”

      Phrased as “Epstein was trying to get Clinton into a blackmailable situation, Clinton dodged it.”

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        OK, sure. Giving him the benefit of the doubt that he wasn’t just discrete. Fine.

        But if I went to hang out with a “good friend”, and he brought some escorts, I can’t imagine myself sitting down for a cordial dinner without at least addressing the elephant in the room.

        That’s seriously wtf.

        But I guess I’m not rich and powerful where I’d even have that problem. The worst I’ve had to deal with is “no, I would not like to invite the strippers you know to this party”

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          Keep in mind that Epstein also ran an adult escort service. I forget who the celebrities were, but there’s an account of 3 C and B list celebrities on Epstein’s plane going to some sort of charity event, with a 23-year old “model”.

          The play for blackmail might have started with girls who at least appeared of age. It would be the smart(ish) play, Monica Lewinsky was 25 when she was a White House intern.

          Which we don’t talk about how fucked up that was enough. The power dynamic of that “relationship” is just wrong on so many levels. If you have direct power over the life of someone else, then that person is not a potential romantic partner. Full stop.

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            How fucked up the relationshipbetween monica and Bill was has been talked about a lot, especially by Monica.

            Shes has some deeply candid and open ted talks where she talks about how we handle shame and shaming as a culture and what it did to her as a person.

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      And I shamelessly enjoy places where the (adult) girls serve you food and beverages in lingerie.

      And that’s not creepy? They’re women by the way, but I guess you prefer to think of them as barely legal teens.

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      Fun fact: did you know Bill Clinton updated the terms of getting food stamps in the 90’s to where if you have ANY drug related non violent felony you cant get food assistance for the rest of your life. He conveniently left Pedophiles off of that list.

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        What a weird claim. Making a vague accusations that “since Clinton is a pedophile, he intentionally gave himself a loophole to get food stamps in the future.”

        Like, dude was rich as a president and has hundreds of millions now. To my knowledge, there is no way to revoke the 200k/yr pension either.

        The above, if it’s true, is likely just a case of a mundane government fuckup, not some grand plot to allow a hundred millionaire to collect $120/month if he needed to.

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          Nope, never said he was a pedophile or that the story told about him being there was true. Simply stated a VERY REAL law that he passed and the fact that he didnt add pedophiles to the list of people who were banned from getting food stamps for life for commiting crimes. You can search that up in 2 seconds, btw. Also youre completley stupid if you think I was suggesting in any way Clinton was going to get stamps for himself LMAO the fact that you jumped to that conclusion is incredibly stupid. I am saying that he seemed to have a soft spot towards the pedos and sexual predators because he left them off of the list of those reforms. Would you like to “quote” more things I never said?

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            Bro, go JAQ off somewhere else.

            Talking about how intersting it is that Clinton “personally and totally on purpose” excluded pedophiles from some dumbass “tough on crime” law in an Epstein thread, a thread about a shithole pedophile that trafficked children to other shithead pedophiles where Clinton’s name has already been mentioned.

            Yeah, just a coicidence that you brought the two topics together. You totally were not inferring anything stupid or outlandish at all by “just asking questions.”

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              When did I ask a question? Just asking questions doesnt apply. I was pointing out that whether or not he did any of that shit on Epstien island he absolutely passed a law that banned almost every criminal act from getting any type of welfare except pedophiles. You can jump through as many mental gymnastics as you want to try and say that I said something I did not or inferred something I didnt that does not change anything about what I said. Also you quoted me as “personally and totally on purpose” which I also did not say. Lol but thats ok stay mad. I said nothing that wasnt the truth. Clinton seemed to like them old enough to be secretary age if I recall correctly. Also youve quoted me saying many things I never did like for one why the fick would Bill Clinton ever need foodstamps like you quoted in your first comment? That is simply stupid and willfully trying to put words in my mouth. I saw a thread about Clinton and Pedophiles and thought, “hey you know what this reminds me of?” Youve made quotes several times for things that I never said and you still have upvotes haha you love to see it. I challenge you to actually quote anything I said and prove it wrong. Misquoting me just makes you seem antagonistic and honestly the fact that you said (quoting me on something I never said) that clinton was setting himself up to get stamps makes you a dumbass lol I said, he made reforms and didnt include pedohilia or sexual assault crimes of any nature to those reforms which is an indisputable 100% fact.