• couragethebravedog@lemmy.ml
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    This conflict has the potential to cause real change in Russia. We’re talking about potentially getting rid of Putin’s regime and it’s being done without sending any of our troops to die. The help Ukraine is getting isn’t charity, look at the bigger picture.

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      If Putin is overthrown the people most likely to overthrow him are hardliners who think he’s being a cuck by not immediately nuking Kiev and Washington.

      So it’s a good thing that there’s basically zero indication of major internal political stability in Russia. Even the Wagner “coup” only asked for Shoigu and Gerasimov to be removed, not Putin.

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      You do realize that America already overthrew Russia’s government once, and that is how Putin came to be in the first place, right? You expect cycle #2 to go better?

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      Lmao. I’m sure they’ll overthrow the government, just like the Americans did to their own government after invading Vietnam and Iraq. Have you seen what the Russian government is doing to mild protestors? Black bagged, sent off to who knows where, doing who knows what. It’s Kent State by like 500x. This isn’t 1980s USSR. The people there support Putin. And those who don’t and protest are still denounced by the west for not doing enough, as if westerners have ever succeeded in holding their governments accountable.

      The most realistic outcome is that Putin resigns in disgrace and 20 years later they make shoot and cry movies about Russian soldiers in Ukraine. And then they’ll rehabilitate Putin as a strong leader anyway.

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      Putin has more support than ever…

      For gods sake try to imagine this from a Russian perspective. NATO bombs are killing their people.

      Like, seriously, imagine how your average American would react to this. Treat the Russians as human for one fucking second.

      They are not going to fucking blame Putin for that. They will blame NATO!!!

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      We’re talking about potentially getting rid of Putin’s regime and it’s being done without sending any of our troops to die.

      The people surrounding Putin who are most likely to replace him are hardliners who think Kiev should be glassed. Part of the motivation behind the Wagner mutiny is Prigo thinking Shoigu isn’t going hard enough in Ukraine. Contrary to liberal bots who only listen to what CNN tells them, it’s good for everyone involved that the Wagner mutiny was completely deflated. There wouldn’t be much of a Ukraine left if Prigo was in charge, and Prigo is not the only one.