Voters spurned Beijing’s repeated calls not to vote for Lai, delivering a comfortable victory for a man China’s ruling Communist Party sees as a dangerous separatist.

Lai Ching-te of the ruling Democratic Progressive Party (DPP) vowed to defend the island from China’s “intimidation” and on Sunday the island’s foreign ministry told Beijing to accept the result.

“The Ministry of Foreign Affairs calls on the Beijing authorities to respect the election results, face reality and give up suppressing Taiwan in order for positive cross-strait interactions to return to the right track,” it said in a statement.

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    You’re right, its a plurality. I misspoke.

    Still doesn’t change any of the rest of what I said.

    Hey at least I can admit and own up to a mistake!

    Also worth noting, the TPP candidate, incumbent and now former President Ken Wen-je, is in favor of the status quo with China, in terms of their governmental influence/dominion, meaning continued independent governance when it comes to sovereignty, though this does mean significant economic partnership, in uh, economic terms.

    So that’s actually roughly 65% of Taiwanese voting for a President that seem to not want Taiwan to become a part of China.

    Which would be… a majority.

    Damn near a super majority, as us filthy consumeristic and vapid Americans might say.

    To actually attempt to venture into the Narrative Construction Zone, one might say that despite one major party in Taiwan with close positions and ties to the Chines Government itself, the momentum seems to be in favor of moving toward /less/ interference from/subservience to/ integration with China, especially where matters of sovereignty are concerned.

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      Shows how little you understand. KMT wants the status quo, TPP wants to engage China.

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        And at this point I am sure that when you say that you mean the status quo of Taiwan has always been a part of China.

        You are wrong, but keep pushing that narrative!

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          See, you don’t know and try to force your narrative on others. And if we actual Taiwanese people tell you no, you mansplain it to us. This is why I hate people like you.

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            @Joncash

            See, you don’t know and try to force your narrative on others. And if we actual Taiwanese people tell you no, you mansplain it to us. This is why I hate people like you.

            If there’s one here who forces narratives on others than it is you. Your comment shows little respect of others, you even offend them. You obviously do not act here in good faith.

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              I have stated nothing but facts. TPP wants to engage China.

              https://news.yahoo.com/taiwans-opposition-says-towards-better-052635196.html

              KMT wants the status quo.

              https://www.brookings.edu/articles/from-dove-to-hawk-kmts-transformation-and-the-quest-for-new-guardrails-in-cross-strait-relations/

              Instead of refuting facts, the above poster resorted to insults. So yes, I insulted him back.

              I expect you too will not refute facts but instead keep insulting me.

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                Engaging with China is a really broad thing to say, from the article that you posted about the TPP:

                “Taiwan’s relationship with China is based on two principles: Deterrence and communication,” said Ko Wen-je from the TPP People’s Party in Taipei on Friday.

                The ruling Communist Party in Beijing counts Taiwan as part of its territory and has already threatened to use military means to force reunification. Ko said China demonstrates this every day, which is why Taiwan has no choice but to move closer to its ally, the US.

                You said the TPP is pro-china, like the KMT, but to me it doesn’t read like that at all. China wants reunification, the TPP is highly against that and is willing to fight for their freedom.

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                  KMT isn’t pro-China, nor is TPP. Stop putting words in my mouth. I said KMT is pro-status quo and TPP is pro-engagement. Only the DPP wants to completely veer away from China. There also is no evidence that TPP wants to fight for freedom. I have no idea where you are getting that from. They want diplomacy, not war. I don’t know why you westerners think of everything in terms of violence. It explains a lot why there’s so much violence in the US.

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                    I’m not putting words in your mouth, that’s what you said in your comment:

                    Only 40% voted for the DPP. 60% voted against the DPP. It’s just the 2 more pro-China parties got their vote split.

                    No evidence the TPP wants to fight to keep their freedom? From the article you linked:

                    China_ must know that it will have to pay a high price if it invades, said Ko.

                    And I already posted this from your article but here again:

                    The ruling Communist Party in Beijing counts Taiwan as part of its territory and has already threatened to use military means to force reunification. Ko said China demonstrates this every day, which is why Taiwan has no choice but to move closer to its ally, the US.

                    China is the one threatening with an invasion, but it’s the fault of the westerners?

                    Also: why so aggressive? Isn’t that a bit too western for you?

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            We’re really pulling mansplaining out of nowhere when you don’t even know their gender? Super weird.