Oh for sure they are there for a profit. But as the best example in the industry let’s not unnecessarily attack them. Imagine how much more money they make if they did go public and how awful it would be for all of us.

Total fair always room for improvement, no ones perfect.

Appreciate the good discussion!

My reference to free market is only a means of saying customers choose steam because of its offerings not that they have too.

I agree it would be nice if they charged less. However do we know their full PNL/balance sheet? People just keep taking revenue/employees as if employees are the only overhead.

They provide the servers, and do have an rde cost for development for services we discussed like cloud saves, control support etc. if people have this much energy over it attack pharmaceutical for there insane mark ups that would drive way more positive social change. But the people driving are mostly trying to make more money by cutting there publishing expenses through steam. I’m sure psn and Xbox also take 25 to 30percent cuts.

They also championed low publishing costs of only 100 dollars to list a game. I don’t know enough to speak to their update charges though. Hell psn been known to charge 25k for visibility in top of their 30% cut and there are no other market options Reference

Everyone focuses here cause developers and publishers want more of this cut and to me seem to try to push steam into regulator cross hairs as a way to force the changes they have failed to negotiate.

I would also point out brick and mortar sellers also take 15 to 20% cut and then also charge for storage, disposal, fulfillment, return on and on. Amazon does the same. It’s the nature of a market place. Reference

Overall it doesn’t make sense to me as a community that we attack our best example of what a game market place should be.

Just more seems to be a lot of posts on this topic and they are filled with anti steam crap

Who the fuck cares what’s with this constant desire to try and shit on steam

I think people often hate steam for their success, but fail to see it’s the result of customers’choice in a free market. (I see it enough I’m not sure if people get paid to hate on them… To ruin the thing they have most of customer respect)

Steam is not publicly traded and does not act like every other publicly traded company. It invests in its customers experience and custtomer come back for that. It does not nickel in dime or use its position to hold its customer captive and enshitfify its product. It’s not an ISP…

It invests in hardware and software development it believes the industry needs not to make a massive profit but to be a champion of what gaming should be (Linux, steam link, index, bug picture, steam controller, steam deck) These products are experimental and usually sold at or near cost not to make money but to prove to the market there is a need and a demand.

They are often a champion and voice of the gamer.

They could have tried to be like Bethesda and tried to monetize their workshop but they didn’t.

Sometimes they’re quiet and we don’t hear anything about what they’re working on, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t working on things.

I can’t imagine pc gaming would have survived and resurged without steam. And I hate to think what it would be like if there were just 5 epics, origin, Uplay, whatever other launcher. I think gaming would look like mobile games…,… which takes a 30% cut too and can only sell in apple or android markets… No one bitches there and they offer no services.

Which is normally fair. However after his never ending pushing of the election being stolen and claiming he was president still, I think it is necessary to clarify he is no-longer president.

Nah the supreme court says he doesn’t have to.

Not the president.

I don’t… It’s fucking depressing

I couldn’t finish reading, I am already a mess of tears 10 paragraphs in. I cannot imagine the pain and guilt…

Sooo just cooking gas with more steps.

Oil industry loves pushing hydrogen but it’s nearly all made from fossil fuels, so what benefit is there?

“Did the federal government make a change for the benefit of the people, and might be an inconvenience to business… never fear there’s a judge in Texas to stop it and later when it gets appealed to the supreme court overturned!”

Why do I feel like we are held hostage by judges lately? Aren’t they supposed to be unbiased and apolitical. Seems to me they should lose their appointment if they can be shown to have political motivation/ baises

Love some diver Dave, and balto.

Stardew valley, Midnight sun, diver Dave, persona 5

Welp must have bought them somewhere else because I definitely played them

I played it to completion when it came out. That game and Valhalla some reason isn’t in my library anymore. And not sure if it’s due to Ubisoft and ea was pulling shit and back on steam with their launchers? Or maybe I lost my mind and bought it in orgin? Who knows

It was decent- just always wanted an origins style remake, and feel like they get farther and farther from the mark each time.

Their are a few, but very infrequently now adays

Annnnnnd the party of law and order will want to do something about this right? RiiiiIiightt?

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