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  • Eldritch@piefed.worldtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.worldWhy are you so liberal?
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    18 hours ago

    It’s talking passed eachother. Something any of us can do. No one here should have a problem with what’s in the meme. Liberal in general conversation is a good thing. Everyone wants liberal amounts of freedom. Or liberal amounts of butter on their toast. Etc Etc Etc.

    The average person is so ignorant they don’t have an understanding of any political structures to have anything of value to say. So most don’t. It was never intended as liberal as in economic liberal, or neoliberal both basically meaning capitalists. Chances are they all have similar gripes to us about capitalists. But simply have no understanding of how to voice it in an educated way. And this sort of behavior certainly isn’t going to fix that.

    As anarchist I would have plenty of places I might disagree with someone who would self describe as liberal. But I know we have far more places we might agree. That neither of us identify with elected officials. That we both feel trapped in this system. That we both want it to be more answerable and representative. We might disagree on how and how much. But we’d both benefit working together against the system. And in the interaction. Perhaps they learn something new and become a proper new ally.



  • They exist yes. Go ask the average person on the street the name more than one of them. At best some might know system 76. But can they buy them at the local best buy, apple store, or micro center? Lots of places don’t have a micro center. Micro center at least sells Linux and BSD media. I haven’t been in 8 months. But for the last 30 years they haven’t sold a pre installed system. Much less best buy or apple store.









  • I was literally asking questions about your reasons and stance. Hence the use of the squiggly little punctuation known as a question mark. But predictably, you have no answers. And worse, squealing like being questioned is some sort of personal attack.

    So tell us “communist” if unions are that problematic. They aren’t, but let’s pretend. What is your incorruptible unit of representation? What is your strategy to reduce corruption? Surely you must have something. Surely you weren’t participating in a traditional capitalist smear against historic institutions of the left.

    Seriously, the way I’ve seen you personally gatekeep other people’s political ideology. While being so ludicrously ill prepared with your own claimed ideology. It’s hilarious. The way you claim to be a communist and then turned immediately around to attack communist as wanting to destroy Society. It’s peak lack of self-awareness.


  • No, it replaces what’s currently at the top with a trade union.

    Something where people vote for their leaders. It would be the same as we have now almost immediately.

    Even if it did it would literally be better than what we have now. But no that’s incorrect. It’s literally about doing away with what is considered the top. And replacing it with local answerable flat representation. Using the power of labor and the Unions to achieve that for Syndicalists. Or by other means for the other subset of anarchists, direct action etc.

    Are you even in a union?

    SEIU, mother was with the teamsters and my father with the pipelines.

    Do you have any idea how they work or how often corrupt assholes get leadership positions for the sole purpose of personally enriching themselves?

    Yes, and? So are you advocating to abolish unions just like the capitalists? Not even the nutty Leninist do that. They just rig things to get their puppets in place. Corruption can happen anywhere, with anyone. Corruption isn’t an inherent feature of unions.

    Like, I know I just said that I’m aware I underestimate others but…

    C’mon man, you legitimately don’t understand how that would result in a system identical to any other party based political system?

    You don’t understand how fast they’d throw their origins out the window?

    You don’t underestimate others. You far overestimate yourself. The whole point of anarchism. From the most extreme to the most milquetoast. Is literally doing away with those unanswerable hierarchy protected leaders. Flat, local, minimal governance of the consenting. Nothing more, nothing less.

    It’s got nothing to do with your other straw man of destroying society. Nothing at all. It’s about not having a fascistic national federal government forcing their whims down your throat through a monopoly on violence. It’s about some shit head governor who’s never been to your town and doesn’t give a shit about your town not being able to do the same to your town. It’s about those who actually use the means of production having a say on them. It’s about you and your neighbors deciding the rules you live by. And not someone that you have no say in at the state or federal level.

    If you actually were a communist, you’d understand this. Especially if you were anti-authoritarian. Most anti-authoritarian communist realistically are going to tend to align anarcho communist. The sad thing is though. I think you are actually capable of understanding this. But contrary to the username you’ve chosen you actually just don’t give a shit.


  • Claims to be a communist, but has no clue about anarchists. Many of whom are actual communist/Marxist. Sure buddy, you’re a super mega communist.

    Anarcho-syndicalism advocates for a society without hierarchical structures, achieved through the power of worker-led trade unions BTW.

    Oh yes that old capitalist Chestnut smearing the ludites. Very communist of you. Do you know who the Luddites were? How based they were? Do you understand how badly we actually need luddites right now?

    You would really do yourself a service, not by reading dense tomes of theory. But by reading a few freaking basic paragraphs of description on a Wikipedia page.


  • Eldritch@piefed.worldtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.worldweapon of the enemy
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    6 days ago

    Sadly, this is not an argument you are going to be able to win here. You are behaving rationally and are correct. Bringing rationality to an irrational circle jerk is a bad time.

    The sad thing is, we agree with the irrational crowd in 90% of everything else. But if it’s not 100%, that makes you the enemy in their eyes.