Kieselguhr [none/use name]

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  • Kieselguhr [none/use name]@hexbear.nettoMemes@lemmy.mlgood morning fellow americanskis
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    2 months ago

    The fundamental problem with leftists is that we’re mostly smug assholes who refuse to work with anyone we disagree with,

    I’m not American - I’m saying you are worse than what liberals say Russian and Chinese are

    anyone we disagree with,

    • Economically they are neoliberals - leftists are opposed to neoliberalism
    • Their foreign policy is brinkmanship, genocide and bombing allied infrastructure

    This is 0/2- how are they not enemies rather than “someone I disagree with”?

    until that changes we will remain completely irrelevant.

    You will remain irrelevant because you’d vote D whatever they do. It seems like you represent the Dems as a project whatever they do, rather than they represent the voter base, earning votes.
    Which is ass backwards.



  • Kieselguhr [none/use name]@hexbear.nettoMemes@lemmy.mlgood morning fellow americanskis
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    or having the possibility of making better choices in the future

    How’s that working out for you if you look at the past few elections? Did you manage to push Biden left? Have they prosecuted the American war criminals? How far is Genocide Joe from your ideal? Is Copmala gonna be better, improving material circumstances?
    Can’t you see that neoliberalism had literally the opposite effect - pushed everything even more right and extreme?

    Americans have this weird view of Russians and Putinists and liberals think that the Chinese are a brainwashed hivemind— but you look crazy from the outside when you argue for voting Mussolini against Hitler.
    Democrats supported genocide and their brinkmanship with Russia got us closer to Nuclear Armageddon, fuck y’all



  • Just a couple of sidenotes

    At the start of the Ukraine war, it was unclear whether Russia might also launch attacks on us, including our nuclear reactors.

    RU attacking Germany is as unlikely as RU shelling London, NY, or Tokyo

    Russia also attacked nuclear reactors in the Ukraine, which certainly reminded people of Chernobyl.

    I think the news was that someone shelled Zaporizhzhia “Russia and Ukraine blamed each other for shelling the Russian-controlled plant.” Now, I’m not Hercule Poirot, but if RU controlled the plant at the time, wouldn’t that make UKR the most likely culprit?

    Russia also cut off our natural gas supply.

    Surely Russia turning a tap is less pertinent than USA literally bombing the pipeline?

    We have practically no own Uranium deposits either,

    So where are you buying from the rest of your resources? Surely nuclear is more feasible than coal from a purely geopolitical/economic point of view? I guess good luck with the solar panels.

    You seem to be a bit confused about the situation.



  • I’m sorry, are you the same person I’ve been talking to? Because it seems like you haven’t actually read anything I’ve written.

    The Ukrainians are the ones who can decide if and when they want to surrender.

    Western politicians actively sabotaged peace talks. Read previous comments for sources.

    They are gaining ground every day

    This has no basis in reality. Even overly optimistic western sources have admitted the failure of the spring counteroffensive.

    have all the time they want

    How can you be this wrong? They have limited manpower and more and more soldiers die every day. Every week spent warring is a huge burden on their economy.

    I’m not gonna answer you again since you are completely out of touch with reality. Even prowar western journalists are more careful with their wording.


  • Yeah no-one is against a peace deal at this point

    Great, call a ceasefire now.

    Just against the one where you let they totalitarian agressor win. Anyone who knows anything about history knows you have to stop those kind of regimes at the earliest possible moment.

    So you are against a peace deal? You do know that the fabled ukrainian counteroffensive has failed completely? How many more regular ukrainians should die in hopeless counteroffensives?

    Btw it seems like you don’t know what totalitarian means. Actual academic historians tend to avoid this term since the seventies.


  • You do realise that a peace deal / ceasefire which involves Ukraine giving up land, sovereignty or anything else is horseshit being pushed around by useful idiots?

    The counteroffensive failed spectacularly, even western sources admit this.

    How many more people you want to send in the meat grinder?

    Here’s an idea: call a ceasefire and let the diplomats negotiate, and let’s see what happens. Let’s see what actual ukrainians want after a few months of negotiation. Maybe Boris Johnson should fuck off. At least people are not dying until then. Outlandish, I know.

    And who is feeding the far left with this crap?

    Now this is qanon level conspiracy theory. I am against war between capitalist nations in general. On one side you have an extremely corrupt oligarchic capitalist country, and on the other side you have an extremely corrupt oligarchic capitalist country.

    Since I live in a NATO country I criticise NATO more, since they are the ruling class above me and there’s enough criticism of Putin around here anyway.

    As far as deals go, US/Ukraine isn’t trustworthy either. The Minsk agreement was bullshit. What happened to nord stream btw?


  • the Russo-Georgian war imperialism

    Wait, are you saying Saakashvili has done an imperialism? Because even western/EU reports have confirmed that Georgia started that war, not Russia.

    They end up supporting or refusing to criticize regimes that generate similar war crimes.

    “From 24 February 2022, which marked the start of the large-scale armed attack by the Russian Federation, to 30 July 2023, OHCHR recorded 26,015 civilian casualties in the country: 9,369 killed and 16,646 injured”

    Almost 10 thousand civilians killed is horrible. But compare this to Iraq: it’s less than the first month of the war in Iraq, and no US politicians was tried for war crimes. Maybe you should ponder this factoid.

    If you live in a NATO country maybe you should demand Blair and Bush to be tried for their war crimes. If you live in the west you should spend more energy of criticizing the ruling class above you.

    “supporting or refusing to criticize” This is a made up leftist. Per definition there is no leftist that uncritically supports a right wing capitalist country.


  • advancing absurd peace deals then they’ve been gotten at.

    You do realize that in order to minimize (working class) casualties some kind of peace deal needs to be signed? And in order to sign a peace deal first there needs to be a ceasefire? The sooner the ceasefire starts, the better.

    Are you saying that western politicians torpedoing any kind of truce and/or peace deal is “Russian misinfo”?

    spoiler

    Russia and Ukraine may have agreed on a tentative deal to end the war in April [2022], according to a recent piece in Foreign Affairs.

    “Russian and Ukrainian negotiators appeared to have tentatively agreed on the outlines of a negotiated interim settlement,” wrote Fiona Hill and Angela Stent. “Russia would withdraw to its position on February 23, when it controlled part of the Donbas region and all of Crimea, and in exchange, Ukraine would promise not to seek NATO membership and instead receive security guarantees from a number of countries.”

    The news highlights the impact of former British Prime Minister Boris Johnson’s efforts to stop negotiations, as journalist Branko Marcetic noted on Twitter. The decision to scuttle the deal coincided with Johnson’s April visit to Kyiv, during which he reportedly urged Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to break off talks with Russia for two key reasons: Putin cannot be negotiated with, and the West isn’t ready for the war to end.

    The apparent revelation raises some key questions: Why did Western leaders want to stop Kyiv from signing a seemingly good deal with Moscow? Do they consider the conflict a proxy war with Russia? And, most importantly, what would it take to get back to a deal?

    JACQUES BAUD: * In fact, in my book I mention only Ukrainian sources, and Ukrainian sources said explicitly that Boris Johnson and the West basically prevented a peace agreement. So that’s not an invention from some Putin partisan here the West; that’s also what the Ukrainians felt. And you had a third occasion when that happened, that was in August, when you had this meeting between [Turkish president] Erdoğan and Zelenskyy in Lviv. And here again, Erdoğan offered his services to mediate some negotiation with the Russians, and just a few days after that Boris Johnson came unexpectedly in Kiev, and again, in a very famous press conference he said explicitly, ‘No negotiations with the Russians. We have to fight. There is no room for negotiation with the Russians.’

    the cost of the war

    Should we ignore the significant human and economic costs of the ongoing war and the support for the military-industrial complex? Why? Is this some kind of noble war against Sauron or what?