The words ‘Mac’ and ‘free’ aren’t allowed in the same sentence.

He is:

A. Poser

B. Loser

C. Lier

D. Scammer

E. All of the above.

Yes it’s E.

Thanks, that makes a lot of sense. For Mars I agree it’s not possible with the insane delay, unless AI will be able to automonously repair, something which might be possible in the future. But for the moon it would be much cheaper to remote control repairs. I’ve seen what surgeons can do with remote controlled machines for precision surgery. The delay still might be annoying but maybe that can improve by using laser instead of radio waves.

Cars are mostly, if not completely, built by precision robots. Why not have a precision robot replace and lubricate parts on the moon?

But first we need to find a way to mine on the moon in the first place. Regolith is extremity nasty stuff, nothing survives long with that tiny sharp dust. The people who went to the moon complained a lot about it. It gets everywhere, it sticks to every surface and shreds everything. There’s also the radiation, micro meteors and extreme temperature fluctuations.

Awesome argument to justify anything. Fuck logic, let’s do it because we can! Genocide? We can do it! Invade a country because Vladi tells us to? WE CAN DO IT!

Seeing the amount of down votes, I guess some Musketeers made it to Lemmy too.

Seriously, give me any supported argument why it would be beneficial to send humans to the moon (and Mars) instead of just robots. (other then “we want to be faster with humans on the moon then the Chinese”, I do get the second space race although it doesn’t make any scientific of economical sense.)

Don’t get me wrong, I see the value of moon mining, mars mining, asteroid mining. I’d rather see us mining those the the fragile ocean floor. It just makes no sense to use humans with the technological expertise we have right now.

We sent humans to the moon, because the computer used on the Apolo rockets was as fast as a Playstation 1. We didn’t have the tech to send a self landing drone.

Now we have several self landing drones on Mars, outlasting their life expectancy way further then anyone could have dreamed of.

We are so far with our technology, yet bringing humans to the moon brings us back to the '60’s while costing us billions more then needed, funds we could use for robots to do an even better job for us with less risks.

Please, come with a supported counter argument, I’d love to see a different side. But anything like “because we can” just isn’t anything I can understand or support.

The argument of “sitting in pods eating from feeding tubes” is a weak argument. We have home delivered groceries and our entire world is being automated so that’s exactly what we are focused on. If you find a way for a factory to replace 10 workers with an automated machine, they’ll tell you “shut up and take my money”.

Again, I see the benefits of mining rare metals and ice (fuel) on the moon and other celestial bodies, just not by humans in person as it complicates everything exponentially, with a fitting price tag.

We’ve already been there. We did it. Done. We quit doing it a looooong time ago. Why are we trying to go back now?

When we send monkeys to the moon, we will send robots first to autonomously / remotely controlled build a base. All so we can send people, who will have to wear suits costing millions of dollars each which will wear and tear extremity fast with the sharp regolith on the moon (the old moon suits could only last roughly 2 days, the new anti static suits just developed can only last a few days longer). And we want them to mine? When we can send robots to build a habitable base, we can send robots to mine. No monkeys needed. There is literally no benefit in sending humans, it only complicates everything to an extreme level, makes everything way more expensive and increases the risk factor exponentially. When we can work with rovers on Mars with an extreme time delay, we can work with the minor delay to the moon.

Remember, a human needs a precise climate. The right type of air, water, temperature, humidity, but also food, radiation protection, dust protection, human waste management, redundancy in case of a failure, physical and mental health care, physical exercise. For transport back and forth, re-entry into our atmosphere and for survival on the moon. A robot needs a connection, radiation protection, temperature control, dust protection, only a one way trip. If it breaks, we just send a new one. No return needed, no precious climate control just to keep it alive.

We still sometimes use humans for mining on earth because often it’s cheaper (in third world countries), while machine mining is still way more efficient. Humans for mining on the moon is much more expensive, so a dumb choice.

We also use humans in rich countries for mining, but they are just controlling heavy machines. It’s less complicated to use humans instead of remote controlling machines deep underground. This benefits do not apply on the moon, a control relay is cheaper then a human.

The only reason I can think of for humans on the moon would be for repairs. But remote controlled repair stations are also possible, so no humans needed for that either. Maybe less repair capabilities possible but it is still cheaper to send a new machine then to send a human.

You make it sound so bad. As if diving in a submarine is dangerous. I mean, we can go to the Titanic without issues, so we should be fine going to moon caves right?

Right?.. 👀

I don’t get what would be the benefit, really. Scientific research, sure. But do we need monkeys on sight? We can land robots and rovers. What can a monkey do what a robot can’t? Keeping anything alive in space, on the mokn or on Mars makes every operation so much more complex. It’s stupid and unnecessary. But it’s a dream of Musk, the world’s biggest scam artist. So why not spend billions of tax money on his stupid dream, making his company a shit to of money. But Trump is probably getting re-elected, so Musk isn’t the stupidest thing out there anymore.

I love Fusion festival. It’s an absolute no-go to take foto’s or film there. Whenever someone does it, they are told not to by other visitors. Any video posted on YouTube is bombed by people asking to take it down. Keep memories in your heart, not on a chip. At Boom festival, some people walk around naked. They don’t mind others to see them, but they never agreed to be posted online. Sadly, there are many assholes with cameras who just don’t give a fuck about other’s privacy.

I don’t get the reference but I do love ketamine

Could you give us, instead of yet another reward, some competition? Like, any at all? We want to do even better, but have nothing to compete against. Please. We can even pay you (in free trophies, no micro payments needed).

I can’t throw money at it to compensate the lack of my skills. This is why EA games are so good. /s

A game needs guns that do pow pow for it to be good. Call of duty is a really good game, because guns are cool. /s

This game forces me to read, which is something I can’t. /s

This game forces me to think, which is something I can’t. /s

All games have insane amount of bugs and lack gameplay. This is the gaming standard. BG3 is different, so I don’t like it. /s

The devs actually put in a lot of effort to produce a proper game worth it’s price. So, do these devs think they’re better then the rest of us or something? Lame. /s

Clearly the troll is an EA dev.

Colonel Eran Morad knows best, he spend didn’t spend 10 years in the Mossad. Yalla, let’s go!

100 seems like a lot for just a pillow. However, you use it every night and it helps you waking up without back or neck pain. So, investing 100 dollars into something you use 1/3 of every day seems like it’s basically nothing. My pillow costed almost 200 euros, my matrass was 1800. I’ve had it for 10 years, so it costed me 2000/3650= ~0.548 per night, 7 to 8 hours per day. Almost 55 cents for proper back and neck support, so I don’t wake up stiff and sour. The longer I use it, the cheaper it becomes, but I think in a year or two I’ll buy a new set so I’ll be sleeping like a princess for another 10 to 12 years.

Plot twist: learning to sleep without a pillow is even better for your back and neck. So, there’s your cheap option.

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I prefer fiat earth

Sure. My parents weren’t one of those “few”. Yet they do complain. “Oooh our pension is barely anything”. “Everything is so expensive”. “We can’t afford anything these days”. Living in a massive house, surrounded by water, having an expensive motorboat, a sailing boat and a row boat next to their house, owning a caravan and SUV to pull it, going on holiday at least 7 times a year. “Oooh we’re being screwed by the next generation, we are suffering so much!” yeah, right. “We don’t want to drive all the way to you, fuel is so expensive. Can you come to us? Oh by the way, we just bought new solar panels and a heat pump. And we completely redid the entire garden, do you like it?”.

They are second degree war victims. Their parents were in the resistance, some of their grandparents went to concentration camps. They always told me there is nothing wrong with being gay, and Jewish people should never be discriminated.

Now they complain about all Muslim people, wanting them to be deported out of the country. They also say ‘transgender’ is bullshit. They voted far right. They are the biggest hypocrites out there. “You can’t call me racist because I think what I say isn’t racist, so no one else may see it as racist”. Yeah mom, that’s not how racism works.

Fuck those boomers. All of them.

Yeah, they had the happy days. At the cost of ours. They had everything, while ruining it for the future generations. And now they are complaining they aren’t getting enough money and respect. They aren’t even saying sorry or anything. I mean, sure, they can earn my respect but at least they have to do something first to earn it: fucking die already.

I’ve seen Norway master this technique. Top of the hill: 90. Sloping downwards, getting steeper and steeper (like, super steep). Almost near the bottom: 70, 5 meters further a speed cam. And those slopes are no joke. You need to clear your ears, they are that high. By the way, those 70 signs aren’t visible from far, due to the terrain and greenery. It’s already hard staying at 90 with constant braking. So it’s a new set of break pads after every step hill.

This wasn’t just once, I’ve seen it many times during my holidays there, spread throughout the country.

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Seeing your name, you too