Really? I think you might be the only one that doesn’t see the decline. I’ve been making these points for years, and I’ve never had to defend the notion that things have gotten worse for workers. Sure, there are specific things tht have improved, but not the whole. Even a lot of the big improvements like the ACA have made the economic picture worse overall.

Union membership in 1975 was around 25% compared to 10% today. Wealth inequality has absolutely exploded, as has the percentage of Americans living paycheck to paycheck. Personal debt has also exploded. People used to borrow to buy a house. Then they started borrowing to buy a car. Then they started paying for college with debt. Now people are financing their groceries.

By every relevant measure, economic outlooks for everyone but the wealthy have crashed in the past 50 years, and Democratic solutions have done dick to stop it. In many cases it was even Democrats making things worse.

Really nothing. It has to do with fascism. Neoliberalism is losing to it all around the globe. Only Brazil and Mexico are bucking the trend, and they elected leftists.

Let’s just put our heads in the sand and pretend that Democrats didn’t lose the entire fucking country. They did everything right, it’s just dumb luck.

It’s not even just the federal government. Not only did Obama lose the House and the Senate, he also lost the Democrats over a thousand statewide seats. At some point there has to be a come to Jesus moment. If things haven’t gotten bad enough now, what will it take?

Not just Obama, but he is a perfect example of the kinds of Democrats that made fascism inevitable.

I don’t give a shit about Obama being black. We elected a black president so apparently we were ready for it, and that’s great. I blame Obama for selling us out to Wall Street on multiple occasions. I blame him for perfecting Clinton’s triangulation politics that replaces substance with flowery rhetoric. I blame Obama for redirecting funds traditionally used for congressional races to his own campaign chests, then blaming the Republican Congress when he couldn’t get anything done. Should I go on?

Americans have had 50 years of “progress” where all the great things Democrats say they do don’t seem to help. Technocratic improvements and even material improvements don’t even register with people anymore. Voters (regardless of what they might say) want transformative change. Forgiving some student loans is good, but free college is transformative.

Republicans offer transformative change. In the absence of anything on offer from the Democrats, the culture moves right. 50 years later and here we are.

What does the left have to do with it?

So was Obama, who led us directly to Trump. At some point, Democrats have to actually stand for something more than mere competence and being the lesser evil.

Voters vote in primaries too you know. Biden beat Bernie almost entirely on a myth that he was the most electable. That shit has to go, and Rachel Maddow and Chris Cuomo aren’t going to do that for us.

Also, her interview answer about not doing anything different from the Biden administration was political malpractice of the first order.

If “best” means technically proficient, then sure. He does the politician thing better than any other establishment Democrats I can think of. If “best” means good for the country, then I have some notes. Obama was the same kind of character, and Trump was the result. I’m not sure I want to go down the highly charismatic Wall Street bitch route again.

Way back in 2001 when Adobe flash was the exciting new thing on the web, I was the network/firewall admin for the data-center hosting the company website. I didn’t get to argue about the site itself, since they had Microsoft in to do that. I did win the argument against the Microsoft engineers wanting to put the site outside the firewall for “performance”. Needless to say my ass was on the line if performance was impacted.

Sure enough, the big launch day arrives, the Superbowl adds run, and the complaints all start coming in about how terribly the site was performing. They beat the hell out of it in the lab, so they knew with absolute certainty that the firewall was to blame. Lots of higher-ups were suddenly aware that I existed, which is never a good thing for a network admin.

I dove into troubleshooting and had my answer in less than ten minutes. The front page was a monstrosity made entirely of flash that displayed nothing until the entire page loaded - graphics and all. That worked well enough on a high speed network but, back in 2001, most people at home were on dialup. A little quick math on the size of the download had it taking over 40 seconds to just see the front page.

The site got a really rapid rewrite, and I was off the hook.

Carlin was great at spotting problems, but shit at recognizing solutions. He was an entertaining crank, not a leader. In the right category he was great.

As a hopelessly straight American, I second the motion.

It wasn’t rigged. Even if it were rigged, it should never have been close enough to be rigged, but it wasn’t rigged. If the DNC waited to say it was rigged, they are still waiting because they haven’t said they think it’s rigged, but their not waiting, because it wasn’t rigged.

They really thought she’d be worse?

For the love of God, please stop spreading this mode of thinking. Elections are won by enthusiasm, not an intellectual weighing of the pros and cons of each. This is the model Democrats have used for decades that got us here. Being the lesser evil is not a solid campaign strategy. The greater evil will always get more attention, and therefore enthusiasm.

I don’t think this is an exclusively American thing. Did Brits really think brexit was a good idea?

That would seem much more to point towards polling using the word ‘liberal’ being more useful than trying to apply leftist definitions

Who’s trying to apply leftist definitions? There is nothing in any definition of “liberal” that aligns it with leftism. It gets misused constantly in multiple ways, not to mention being confused with neoliberalism.

Funny that polling on specific issues and particular politicians rarely if ever translates into actual voting patterns

Tell that to Andrew Cuomo, or Joe Crowley.

even in ballot initiatives

Not true. Republicans (and some Democrats) are working hard at removing ballot initiatives because they work so well for the left.

Bernie wouldn’t have lost two fucking primaries due to the more left-leaning of the two parties rejecting him by double-digit percentages

Why would you assume Bernie being left is why he lost? Clinton had way more large money donations than Bernie, and she had corporate media in her pocket. Bernie wasn’t even making a serious run until he started doing far better than he thought he would. Half way through he completely reorganized his campaign to be a real candidate instead of an issue candidate. The fact that he was able to make that a race against someone with Hillary’s name recognition and the party blessing shows just how powerful left messaging can be.

The issue against Biden wasn’t that left politics was unpopular, it was that left politics was perceived to be unpopular. The number one issue for Democratic voters in 2020 was beating Trump. Voters thought a centrist candidate had a better chance, even though Bernie and Biden pulled almost identically against Trump. The media kept pounding on the electability argument against Bernie, and it stuck. Polling on the candidates showed voters preferred Bernie’s policies, but they didn’t know if he could win.

“THE COUNTRY IS SECRETLY LEFT-WING”

Oh, fuck you, that’s not at all what I said.

Polling using the word “liberal” is pretty pointless. Leftists and centrists have completely different opposing definitions of what it means, and most Americans don’t have a clue.

Polling on specific issues or particular politicians is the only way to get an accurate picture, and Americans, especially Democrats, are far more left than they self identity.

Campaign money is important, but it also has it’s limits. At some point, more spending has diminishing or even negative returns. We just saw that with Elon in Michigan.

Going after AOC for allegedly not doing anything for her constituents is pretty damn ignorant. You aren’t going to find many House members who are as engaged as she is, and her constituents are overwhelmingly pleased with her.

She is also one of maybe half a dozen House members with an effective social media game. You can belittle it as “performative” but engaging in public rhetoric is a big part of a politician’s job. I wish every Democrat advocated as well as she does.

It’s funny that you are attacking her on social media by criticizing her for attacking people on social media.

I think it’s far more likely she runs for Schumer’s seat in the Senate than the presidency. It’s pretty much her’s if she wants it.