I hope you read the fine print of your article

Along with the usual mix of government mismanagement and corruption are two unexpected and devastating events: the war in Ukraine, which has sent prices of grain and oil soaring, and the U.S. Federal Reserve’s decision to raise interest rates 10 times in a row, the latest this month. That has made variable rate loans to countries suddenly much more expensive.

The Chinese Ministry of Foreign Affairs, in a statement to the AP, disputed the notion that China is an unforgiving lender and echoed previous statements putting the blame on the Federal Reserve. It said that if it is to accede to IMF and World Bank demands to forgive a portion of its loans, so should those multilateral lenders, which it views as U.S. proxies

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China argues it has offered relief in the form of extended loan maturities and emergency loans, and as the biggest contributor to a program to temporarily suspend interest payments during the coronavirus pandemic. It also says it has forgiven 23 no-interest loans to African countries, though AidData’s Parks said such loans are mostly from two decades ago and amount to less than 5% of the total it has lent.

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In high-level talks in Washington last month, China was considering dropping its demand that the IMF and World Bank forgive loans if the two lenders would make commitments to offer grants and other help to troubled countries, according to various news reports.

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On this point, experts who have studied the issue in detail have sided with Beijing. Chinese lending has come from dozens of banks on the mainland and is far too haphazard and sloppy to be coordinated from the top.

Some poor countries struggling to repay China now find themselves stuck in a kind of loan limbo: China won’t budge in taking losses, and the IMF won’t offer low-interest loans if the money is just going to pay interest on Chinese debt.

Basically Bejing is asked to swallow the debt when Washington increases interest rates. Its also a lot more unreasonable when private and multilateral debts is a much larger part of Africa’s debt pie than bilateral debt with China is

Are you just looking for something to get angry at or did you momentarily turn your brain off? Ssm’s comment clearly can be read sarcastic seeing the votes, which changes it’s meaning quite a bit. Dessalines is right to for ask for clarification before swinging the hammer.

Thanks to your valuable contribution to the discussion

why would be a fascist propaganda if they were the ones making agreements with the fascists?

Because fascists like yourself like to share this without the proper context to paint the Soviets in a bad light, when in fact it was them almost alone stoping the Holocaust.

maybe yes, maybe not, the love for genocide was mutual tho

I like how the article you shared says

Scholars continue to debate whether the human-made Soviet famine was a central act in a campaign of genocide,[159] or a tragic byproduct of rapid Soviet industrialization and the collectivization of agriculture.[76][51][17][52] Whether the Holodomor is a genocide is a significant and contentious issue in modern politics.

If a military defeat is necessary to create revolutionary conditions, is it not then in the best interest of the working class in each imperialist power for the other to win,

Yes?

and does that not then put the working class in each imperialist power at odds with one another?

Yes I would like the war to end asap and not to see Ukraines working class be forced into the meat grider to fight the imperialists fight…

Don’t you believe in internationalism? Solidarity?

Yes?

How many hundreds of thousands of lives does it cost to create revolutionary conditions, and how can you be so arrogant as to cheer while they’re fed into the meatgrinder, believing with such certainty that it means you’ll get your chance at revolution?

That’s such a perverted misrepresentation of material reality I’m not even sure where to begin. 1) Analysis does not mean justification. That’s your interpretation of it. 2) where am I cheering it on? You make it sound like I endorse it when in fact it’s NATO and it’s proponents 3) heightend contradictions improve condition for revolution is a basic historical fact…

Sorry, I was under the impression you were speaking in favor of NATO expansion and think that while the US is bad, it’s emdevours in Ukraine are just (this time).

Also “critical support” for what, Russian imperialism? Why does Russian imperialism deserve “critical support” while western imperialism deserves direct opposition?

Revolutionary defeatism

Recognizing that yes, Putin’s Russia is a bourgeois state with highly questionable rights for sexual minorities and a husk of its former Soviet glory, its re-nationalized industries are a target for the US imperialist emdevours ripe to be privatized again. (You can see how the NATO supports racist nawalny,.but not the largest opposition force in Russia instead, etc.)

To understand the geopolitical context of the NATO proxy war in Ukraine against Russia it helps to watch the Mearsheimer lecture on it (hardly Russian propaganda)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4

Also Ben Norton gives a solid breakdown here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhajzlhcgSk

So does “tankie” and “woke.”

Could you kindly defone that for me?

You called me a liberal

Where? Lol funny how you get that feeling I talked about you

thought it would be obvious I was mocking you by repeating the viewpoint you expressed without the air of pretentiousness that you surround it with, but I guess I was the stupid one for thinking you were capable of recognizing sarcasm.

I see you’re like arguing with strawmen in your head

Also “critical support” for what, Russian imperialism? Why does Russian imperialism deserve “critical support” while western imperialism deserves direct opposition?

That’s what I’m asking you dumbass lol why can you lend western imperialism critical support and not to Russia? Maybe figure out the term and how it’s defined before speaking on it?

Can you kindly contextualize the MIC and it’s interest in NATO, Mearsheimer (a foreign policy hawk that loves war) saying its NATO agression, Biden joking in the 90s and knowing full well what NATO east expansion would mean, Putin going from friend to foe, Russia’s economy after the fall of the SU until now?

outright military invasion, is somehow not imperialist

Imperialism is when military intervention. The more militarier the intervention the imperialister it is

Ah yes, because there are only two options

It’s almost like there isn’t, right? Could it be the “critical” part in “critical support”?

Wow that’s incredible, why don’t we just skip waiting for the imperialists to do it and carry out the genocide ourselves.

Your brain is melting wtf are you even saying?

Unlike “Tankie” and “woke”, “lib” does in deed have a definition.

You’re right we should be running dogs for western imperialism instead.

And yes it will improve revolutionary conditions as the contradictions become more aparent (money for weapons and genocide is seemingly endlessly available, but not when it’s about housing, environment, healthcare, etc.). The only reason you see it as moronic and dangerous, is because you seem to live in a country that reaps the benefits of imperialism that grant you stability in life

“Tankie” functions for libs the same way, as “woke” does for chuds. It’s a meaningless term

What no theory does to a mf

You didn’t know the soviets were part of the allies, so it’s futile to go in any discussion with you. Your repeating fascist propaganda and insinuating that Stalin and Hitler were allies. You can’t even contextualize the Munich agreement. Just stfu and lurk more

The soviets were part of the allies, and killed 8/10 Nazis. Seeing your historical illiteracy explains your lack of understanding on current geopolitical events

I think it is a mistake to assume this article reflects the position of the New York Times because they chose to run it.

It may not reflect the position of the NYT, but does reflect their views in some regard. You don’t think they’d publish a guest essay portraying Stalin in any light other then a negative one?

You may as well be right. Thinking about how it’s a privately run business, It’s definitely within the realm of possibility and how it’s done in practice. It requires less time/ressources to have your journalists follow guidelines and punish them if they are not within guidlines. Reading the damn thing and haveing a lengthy approval process costs money after all…

What I’m saying is that while this is an opinion piece, it had to pass an editorial board. Since this piece obv got publish, it means that it reflects the views of the board in some regard

Which had to pass the nyt editorial board.