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Cake day: June 5th, 2023

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  • It’s a fairly expensive treat, but Jenny’s makes a dairy free pint that’s coffee sorbet mixed with delightful coconut cream.

    The coffee sorbet section is very bright and tangy, unlike any coffee gelato or ice cream I’ve ever had before. It juxtaposes really well with the creaminess of the coconut cream.

    Usually I work on a pint over the course of weeks, having a few spoonfuls at a time. I demolished this within two days haha.








  • Yes, I’d agree that for it to be a punishment entitlement would need to be involved - for example nobody feels punished that they didn’t win the lotto by buying one ticket.

    Entitlement can take the form of the status quo, whether or not that’s justified is not a conversation I have enough critical thinking for.

    I think what I haven’t seen cleared up in this thread is there are actually two reasons for 4b floating around - one is to try and bring about societal change by crashing the birth rate, but the other is simply out of safety and self-preservation of women. If we focus on the latter, it makes sense that women in more dangerous societies will choose 4b more often than those where they feel safer.

    The conclusion I come to is that 4b will be more common in states that do not value the bodily autonomy/safety of women, which I’d say largely points to conservative states.

    In a way, if safety and bodily autonomy is the reason for choosing 4b, it will self-regulate to not “punish” or affect those who generally vote to pass policies treating women properly.

    I think there was some nuance that was lost in the call for “all” women to participate in 4b


  • A punishment requires a penalty or deprivation, and since dating is not a requirement, there can be no deprivation occurring.

    Fwiw, a common example of a punishment removing something that is desired but not required is temporarily taking away X from a rowdy kid, be it phone, snacks, etc, which does poke a hole in that assertion.



  • Yeah, others have portrayed that as the goal here.

    I just feel like I wouldn’t feel particularly attached to the fate of a country raised by brainwashing conservative families anyways, so it’s a scorched earth approach. Yes, you’ve broken the system, and it can be remade now, but those doing the remaking likely won’t carry your values…