While the soup attack caused damage in the historic frame if the picture, this protest did not cause any permanent damage. From the choice of glue to the choice of spraypaint, everything was well thought out. So no, I don’t think this is proof that the Soutwark conviction is totally unreasonable

I am with you regarding the big ones. But what about smaller media outlets and journalists to try to make a living on their own ? We need them. More then the big ones. Then the solution is to just ignore all the big ones and read the smaller ones. With ads or paying for it.

I was talking about paywall removers not adblockers in that sentence

We didn’t care. We were the hosting provider nor the news outlets. But we had close contact to our customers. And a lot of the smaller customers had a hard time to even survive. The primary source of income was print until paywals came around. Some customers never had print and had to close down with the surge of ad blockers

That is true and false. Adblock plus takes money for the acceptable afs program, yes. But there are clear guidelines about the ads. Containing criteria for privacy, size in relation to content and more.

I work in IT for 20 years now. Half this time my salary was paid for by ads:

My company hosted big german news outlets. All money they made online was from ads.

More adblockers meant less income so their required more ads just to come out without losing money.

ABP tried to break this cycle.

Now we are having paywals, and paywal breakers. And at this point this is outright stealing.

If adblockers would allow ads that adhere to the acceptable ads criteria, the world would be a better place. Less paywals, less ads and maybe some companies would pay their employees a little bit more.

SUVs verbieten. Keiner muss eine Schrankwand durch den Wind pressen. Keiner braucht diese Fahrzeuge.

Eingeschränktere Sicht, höherer Verbrauch und Platzverschwendung.

We are using relativ old Hardware, old thinkpads. They would not be able to run Windows 10 or 11 bare metal ;)

This does not help with Ruida Controllers and fiber Lasers. Both things I have at my company and we don’t have any Windows System.

That is such a shame. And since we need to talk over usb, wine will not work either 😞

Niemand wird ein Dienstwagen bekommen weil der geldwerte Vorteil gesenkt wird. Und darum geht es hier.

Bei uns in der Flotte sind über 70% Verbrenner. Auch bei den neuen Autos aus dem letzten Jahr. Anreize schaffen damit die Leute die eh schon einen dienstwagen haben einen elektrischen Wählen ist in wie fern ein Problem?

Für mich war das der Weg vom Diesel weg. Der Dienstwagen. Und als Autist aufem Dorf ist das nun mal das einzige Fortbewegungsmittel das ich für Dinge außerhalb der Fahradzone habe.

Ich halte das für einen effektiven Weg.

Außerdem betreiben Autohersteller regelmäßig Leasing Dumping für Flotten Kunden damit die Fahrzeuge auf der Straße gesehen werden und Kaufinteressente wecken. Selbigen Effekt könnte ich mir auch für Elektro Autos vorstellen.

Aktuell sind weniger als 15% der neu zugelassen Autos elektrisch. Ein Großteil der in Deutschland zugelassenen PKW sind auf Gewerbliche Halter angemeldet. (ca. 65%. Aber dazu gehören auch Vermieter und teilw. Leasinggeber). Wenn es also hier die chance gibt, Umweltschutz zu fördern bei einer Zielgruppe die den ÖPNV nicht nutzen wird, warum sollte man diese nicht ergreifen?

Aaaaber: ÖPNV muss dennoch gefördert und ausgebaut werden. Ich glaube nur nicht das die weg brechenden Einnahmen durch den Geldwerten Vorteil irgendwas aus machen.

Hier werden dann für einen Bruchteil dwr dienstwagen statt 0,5% des neupreises nur 0,25% des neupreises im Monat versteuert. Das macht pro Dienstwagen weniger als 150€ aus bei max. Listenpreis vom 95.000.

Lasst uns doch lieber den geldwerten Vorteil bei Verbrenner auf 2% heben. Das sind pro verbrenner ein paar hundert mehr

Wenn man die Features benutzt nein. Für die Oma zu hause: aber so was von!

AVM ist schon lange überteuert und Schrott. Mit einem billigen 30€ amazon Modem und der Box im LAN Mode habe wir an unserem alten Anschluss vor ein paar Monaten gute 20% mehr Durchsatz. An der selben DSL Leitung.

Management ist ein kraus geworden und die Verarbeitung, nunja.

Wer kann: unifi + Modem.

You mean he would nuke a lot of the world. If he gets a second term, we are done for…

Yes I do talk about what is lega, because for some fucking reason, i have to explain why I was not surprised. I also talk about the fact that this does not mean that I agree with law ans prosecution.

I layed out where I draw the line: hypocrisy. If you are willing to risk life’s , be consequent in your actions.

Also, I tried to show how the general public, again not my views, sees the last generation because of what they do.

The assumption seems to be: if we just so such stunts, something will change. But we reached a point where the protest actions alienate politicians and the general public. And without support for the idea itself we are fucked. Or more, the generations after us are fucked

Dude. Read the thread please "the planes should never be flying in the first place " was an argument I initially responded to. And please read my comments on this post. I am tired of repeating my self.

I don’t compare your footprint to anything. Also I am not arguing that our debate here is a risk to the planet.

I am just saying that without airplanes, many things would be not possible. And that includes solar and Wind energy btw.

I am well aware how large the co2 footprint of an airplane is. But if I have the choice between banning all airplanes and green energy, my choice is clear.

And here is the core of the issue, and this is btw a very generell issue:

We are such dependent on things like airplanes, trucks and cars, thar we can not force a complete ban without risking other important stuff.

I work in IT. I am fighting constantly to reduce power consumption, for self sufficient data centers and advocate against large scale AI, because the power consumption is massiv and the raw resources for GPU damage the environment from gathering through production.

And one of the most paradox things I encountered is a customer that does climate change research and tries to find more ways to combat it. And they asked for an offer with over 200 GPU’s.

And based on this experience, my rough calculations for an average lemmy instance gives me about 2 metric tons co2/year. But is this bad? We are using this to discuss topics like these, organize protest, and if course for fun.

I know the following is a stupid argument, but stick with me for a second.

Based on your criteria we could shut down 90% of all instances. That would save us around 40 tons co2 per year.

So, if we isolate this it looks good, right?

But: a flight from Frankfurt to Heathrow wit a 747 alone produces around 70 tons of co2.

So, it is all a question of perspective. And I am completely with you >70% of all flights should be just forbidden. Nobody, I repeat, nobody needs to fly from Germany to Italy. Use the fucking train.

But how about USA? There is no train in this direction. So, while I am all for reducing flights as much as we can, we still have to keep some passenger planes.

And for fright, we may be dependent for stuff that must be delivered quickly and is sensible to environmental conditions. Like parts for solar panels.

No they don’t. Currently, they are investigating and we don’t know all facts. If tue only facts are the one we know, and a court still decides in the favor of the prosecution, than we have a serious issue. But we are not at this point (yet)

Says the one writing on a device some text, and sending it to a server. And both pieces of hardware are send around the world multiple times. Their raw resources, assembled parts and the whole systems.

But: we need alternatives to fossils fuel for planes. And, of course, short range flights or flying to Mallorcavjust to drink,puke and piss, should be forbidden.

We can’t remove planes without removing a huge part of the stuff that we are dependent on every single day.

To find compromises, we have to start at the extremes. But there is no seek for compromise. And after all, we are to late for compromises.

And btw, if you read my comments, I also don’t assume that anybody was in danger. But imagine someone disturbs air traffic vor 4-8 hours? I just explained why there is a law against such things.

You are for certain right on this. And I expect that happening soon.

Oh, there I am with you! 100%

It’s a petty that it is rather hard to burn those private machines down …

Ah yes, the famous airport blockades od those events. Oh, wait …

Yeah absolutely comparable!!!

No! Those activits crossed a line where they were willing to risk life’s. And this is the point where I refuse to keep my personal feelings out of this discussion.

If you block an airport, you are willing to risk other people’s life. And your mindset shows that we are very close to terrorism.

And, most of all, this pisses me of because nearly every idiot involved in this has a China made phone in his pocket that would not exist without air traffic.

You want environmental terrorism? Fine! But be consequentl. Don’t buy electronics, don’t buy or use stuff that needs rare earth’s, oil, or other polluting stuff.

Running over an air field to protest against climate change while recording ourself with your iPhone! Nice!

But! Still I don’t have the opinion that the last generation itself is a criminal organization. Still, some members do everything they can to prove the police and critics correct