Conservative Republican Rep. Jim Jordan fell significantly short of winning the House speaker’s gavel on a first ballot Tuesday, leaving the House in paralysis after 20 Republicans opposed the Ohio Republican.

  • @candybrie@lemmy.world
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    19 months ago

    You’re right, it’s an impossibility for there never to be a vote for speaker. But the GOP is in the driver seat. They’ll either come to a consensus or there will not be a speaker until the next congress, which is in 14 months. They’ll probably come to a consensus because, you’re right, the electoral consequences are probably too great if they don’t. But there is virtually no chance that democrats and a handful of Republicans are going to get to decide the speaker this term.

    • @btaf45@lemmy.world
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      19 months ago

      or there will not be a speaker until the next congress, which is in 14 months.

      That is not a possibility. That is a completely impossible scenario for a large variety of reasons.

      But there is virtually no chance that democrats and a handful of Republicans are going to get to decide the speaker this term.

      There is a very significant chance. Cross party coalitions are a very common thing in state legislatures. And even Republicans are getting totally fed up with the anti-American neofascists in their party.

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        In the case where they don’t elect a new speaker for a significant amount of time, they’ll grant the speaker pro tempore additional powers in the meantime.

        There might be a cross-party coalition, but it will not be a minority of Republicans. And if it does happen, it’s not going to happen soon. Looking like you’re working with democrats is poison to the republican base.

        • @btaf45@lemmy.world
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          19 months ago

          they’ll grant the speaker pro tempore additional powers in the meantime.

          Only for huge concessions and a formal power sharing arrangement.

          There might be a cross-party coalition, but it will not be a minority of Republicans.

          This is starting to look like the most probable scenario. A majority of congress can vote to change the rules at any time. They could give the head janitor the power to call speaker votes if they wanted to. I don’t know who the next speaker will be, but I already know that Liz Cheney has a more probable chance than Gym Jordan.

          Looking like you’re working with democrats is poison to the republican base.

          Not in Biden districts. Looking like you’re working with the neofascist wing of the GOP is poison in the Biden districts.

          • @candybrie@lemmy.world
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            19 months ago

            Only for huge concessions and a formal power sharing arrangement.

            Like avoiding a government shut down and aid to Ukraine? It’s not like they’re getting much better deals even if they help elect Cheney as speaker.

            They could give the head janitor the power to call speaker votes if they wanted to.

            Why would they want to, though? They’ll let the Republicans swing in the wind, especially if they can get major priorities done through limited powers granted to McHenry on a temporary basis. That gives them more control, and like we’ve both acknowledged–this can be an electoral disaster for Republicans.

            Not in Biden districts. Looking like you’re working with the neofascist wing of the GOP is poison in the Biden districts.

            I said the base. Even in Biden districts, they can’t piss off the base too much unless they don’t feel like being the republican nominee.

            • @btaf45@lemmy.world
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              19 months ago

              Like avoiding a government shut down and aid to Ukraine?

              Like bringing to a floor vote everything Dems want to have a vote on.

              • @candybrie@lemmy.world
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                19 months ago

                They’re already sending letters saying to give it too McHenry in 15-day increments to get a budget/another round of CR’s and aid to Ukraine handled. I don’t think it’ll be everything the dems want but it also won’t be McHenry can bring anything he wants to the floor.