This is a Rant. I know I should write my own fiction with blackjack and hookers but just let me get it out of my system.

I’ve read some solarpunk at this point (mostly short stories) and the number of times that I’ve read the equivalent of “and we all decided not to be jerks to one another and agreed to a bunch of stuff” it’s basically a meme at this point. Yes, Solarpunk doesn’t need to be hard sci-fi, there can be fantastical elements, but can we get over the “we magically work as one humanity now”?

I think it’s OK to have a world that, without mass media and government control, we would realise that people are friendly and getting things done is easier than it seems, but it’s also OK for this to be done in pockets. It’s OK for there to be raiders and selfish people and people who still endeavour to pollute and it’s OK to have bad guys. It’s OK for the indigenous ways to just be the norm rather than the exception, but there are still a lot of ancap crazies out there.

So, if you’re writing climate fiction / Solarpunk, please consider not doing that. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.

  • meyotch@slrpnk.net
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    1 year ago

    No, there cannot be magic in a solarpunk future. Solarpunk is a shovel with a sense of purpose. You can move earth to despoil and destroy or you can move it to further enrich the earth itself.

    The only reason I embrace solarpunk is that I see a clear path to living, even a little bit, in that dream.

    • dillekant@slrpnk.netOP
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      1 year ago

      I want to separate my critique from a critique of Solarpunk itself. I love the stories and I want to see more, but the “and then everyone came together and held hands and now we have paradise” trope is bad.

      As for fantasy, I think other than the hardest of science fictions, we need a bit of fantasy, if only because no one can really create a future world from whole cloth and have it obey the laws of physics and social dynamics. It’s just too hard. So some unrealistic stuff is OK, but That One Trope!

      • meyotch@slrpnk.netEnglish
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        1 year ago

        Indeed I did like that, much appreciated. It is exactly the sort of hopeful realism I need.

        I think what I was trying to say with my original comment is that, to me, solarpunk sci-fi is the hardest of hard sci-fi. There is such a thing as solarpunk fantasy too, but that genre doesn’t speak to me. Tell me how to make the better world, I beg you. Don’t describe it and then decline to give details.

        The oceans won’t boil, the future that awaits us without a real course correction is much more boring. We can choose by default to accept a near permanent crisis that just grinds on forever and leaves us numb. I still fight against that.

        Good hard stories give courage, a dose of realism and teach us how to make a better alternative. Overemphasis on and slavish devotion to technology got us here. Solarpunk yokes technology in the service of the human, not the other way around. The stories I need are adriot with tech and with the human side of the wrenching changes we face.

        • StringTheory@beehaw.orgEnglish
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          1 year ago

          The stories I need are adriot with tech and with the human side of the wrenching changes we face.

          I assume you’ve read Ursula le Guin’s stuff? I’m drawn to her short stories and later novels in particular.

          Edit: “Ursula” is becoming a theme among my favorite authors. Hmmm…

          • meyotch@slrpnk.net
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            1 year ago

            Oh my yes. That particular Ursula is my favorite. Her upbringing as an anthropologist is definitely a perspective we need. The tech is here, we need to build the culture.