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In his sentencing memo Thursday, U.S. District Judge Cormac J. Carney made it clear why he was letting Tyler Laube off lightly.
It wasn’t just because of what Laube did or didn’t do – the defendant had already confessed to beating a journalist at a 2017 Southern California rally and pleaded guilty to violating riot laws as part of a white supremacist gang.
Laube deserved a light sentence, Carney said, because prosecutors should have focused on leftist groups.
In a 22-page memo, Carney repeatedly said prosecutors have “ignored” violence committed by Antifa and instead focused on targeting people like Laube – Trump supporters and members of the far right.
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The federal judge’s strong words – and clear political bent – are as unusual as they are uninformed, legal experts told USA TODAY.
“He’s really gone off the deep end,” said John Donohue, a professor at Stanford Law School.
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The American fascist party isn’t even trying to hide it anymore.
Why would they? They know they have the nearly 30% support it takes to overwhelm a society and, crucially, they know roughly 30% are complacent enough to allow their takeover and whatever atrocities they think are required to ‘fix’ society.
Remember that when fascism threatened to overwhelm us in the 1930s, only about 30% of society were onboard with it; 30% were actively against it, and roughly 30% were in denial, didn’t want to talk about it, or were just hoping it would go away somehow if they just ignored it.
American jurisprudence is a joke.
This particular judge is a joke. The American legal system is flawed in many ways, but you also have to recognise that no system as large as that can be internally consistent all the time. There are tens of thousands of judges in the US, so it’s expected that every so often you will see a particularly unfair or strange ruling.
There are tens of thousands of judges in the US, so it’s expected that every so often you will see a particularly unfair or strange ruling.
Except it’s proven particular groups are more likely to receive harsher sentences than others (brown men). It a corrupt hypocritical system that was intentionally made to give justice to some and not others. It was designed to be unfair
I quite literally said—
The American legal system is flawed in many ways…
This outcome is not a product of the systematic problems you describe. The average January 6 defendant received sentences of several months to several years imprisonment. This case (and I’m only talking about this case) is a statistical outlier.
I swear, whenever I try to make a nuanced point the people on this site can be dense as fuck and it goes right over their heads and they think that I’m claiming everything’s perfect
I know what you said. My argument is the system isn’t flawed. It’s working as it is intended.
This outcome is not a product of the systematic problems you describe.
The entire system uses prejudice to sentence those it considers outliers harsher than others. Whether it be race, gender, political ideology, etc. As well as DA’s being more concerned with getting a conviction no matter the cost instead of actual justice.
This case (and I’m only talking about this case) is a statistical outlier
Yet even you bring up the fact that the VAST majority of Jan 6 defendant receive less time (especially compared to BLM protestors) yet somehow this case is seperate from the issues that plague our justice system? Couldn’t have anything to do with their races and political affiliation right?
no response… how telling.
I mean, increased scrutiny and harsher penalties applied to left-wing radical groups and amnesty for right-wing radical groups has been a pretty consistent problem for decades at minimum. This is a prominent example of a more widespread problem.
tens of thousands of judges
Less than 1000 at that level (US district judge) I’m pretty sure. It is a pretty big deal. They are confirmed by the Senate and serve for life. Real zanies are not supposed to get through.
There are many times more state court judges, some of whom hold their offices by virtue of election
I get what you’re saying, but there needs to strong and effective remedies for situations like this.
This judge needs to be removed and barred from any public office or service, and every ruling they ever made carefully re-evaluated.
I agree. These rulings seem politically motivated and, as the experts in the article said, reflect shocking ignorance of the situation. Unfortunately, unlike most state judiciaries, there is no body set up to scrutinise federal judges. The only recourse is political, through impeachment.
Bullshit. A jury of peers was always supposed to be white men. From the very first moment this shit hole was settled, its been nothing but racism, fascism, and greed.
“Sentencing Mr. Laube to additional incarceration would only increase the disparity between his punishment and the lack of punishment (and prosecution) members of far-left groups who have committed the same violent conduct received,” Carney [the judge!] wrote. The sentence: time served, 35 days, rather than the six months prosecutors had sought.
For punching a journalist on camera, having gone to the protest with the intention to commit violence as part of a right wing fight club.
Sounds like clear grounds for an appeal. I wish that kind of absolute bias would be grounds for removal.
Yeah, easy-peasy appeal material. The First Amendment absolutely bans modifying someone’s sentence based on whether they’re left or right wing. This judge just flat-out confessed to violating the Constitution.
Can you appeal a criminal being let go?
A not-guilty verdict can’t be appealed, but the length of the sentence resulting from a guilty verdict can be appealed, at least in certain situations.
So whataboutism is now law?
That’s the purpose of propaganda.
Right wing
mediapropaganda is a cancer on society… They literally formed a separate reality for people to live within.For the right and the people in power, laws are just a mere suggestion. In fact, them breaking the law is kind of a status symbol for them, note that they often apologizes for being caught, not for the deed they did.
In their endgame, they’ll be rubbing it into our faces.
Hope that the antifa prisoners get a successful appeal against their excessive sentences out of this.
And that the fash judge is forced to retire immediately, with a review into all their sentencing decisions.
That doesn’t happen with federal judges. They have to be impeached by Congress and tried in the Senate. It has happened a few times but it is rare.
Well we all know how Republicans in congress vote when it comes to white supremacy, so that’s dead in the water.
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There’s a link, to an article. You can read it if you want to.
Sounds an awful lot like the trials after hitlers failed coup attempt, after all, the nazis were “guided in their actions by a purely patriotic spirit and the noblest of selfless intentions”
In other words, “better luck next time, guys; we’ve got your backs.”
This judge is a lunatic. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cormac_J._Carney
What the fuck
Is there no way these magats can be disbarred? Seems a blatant political action
Conservatism is a plague of oppression and death. Being conservative should be a disqualifier for positions of authority.
Conservative policing and conservative courts are moral justification for extrajudicial justice against conservative offenders.
Ah yes, the “activist judges” i always hear conservatives whine about
After all those riots, and speaking as a Canadian, it does seem there is a lobsided focus on right wing nut jobs over left wing nut jobs.
Surely others see this as well? Not saying this guy’s sentence should be lighter, I don’t care, but there was a lot of forgiveness for what antifa did.
As another Canadian… fucking seriously?
Yes.
I dont know whether to laugh, or to cry knowing you’re probably going to do your best to Vote in PP
You’d just let Trudeau’s blatant corruption go on forever?
The Conservative party has been the biggest detriment to Canada and to my province in decades. Li’l PP is going to be far more corrupt than Trudeau. Any Canadian who’s been paying attention to politics and the Conservative party knows this.
A significant number of his votes are going to be from people who pay more attention to YouTube ads than politics…case in point, all the people who blamed the pandemic lockdowns on Trudeau…
There are no left wing nut jobs by comparison. There is no equivalent. What do you know?
Lol whatever you say.
No, really.
Denying reality doesn’t stop it lmao
I don’t see anyone getting the standard punishment for insurrection or treason here so no this does not track.
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The cops who were beat to death let them in?
Are you talking about the one died of a heart attack, or the one who had a stroke? Maybe the ones died of suicide in the year after they tried to blame on that too?
The individuals who passed physical fitness exams annually just so happened to have major cardiac attacks after being BEATEN TO DEATH.
If it wasn’t them being violently beaten to death, ypu wouldn’t have known the exact individuals being identified.
And I’m pretty sure you don’t have to be beaten to death to prove you were beaten in a way that proves you didn’t cooperate willingly.
Nice moving goalposts dipshit. We went from “the cops let them in” to “they only beat the cops to the edge of death and then they died of heart attacks.”
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Yes. Medical science can bring people back from having their heart stopped.
But if you could actually read for shit you would notice I said they were beaten to the edge of death then died of heart attacks.
Good job pointdexter.
Maybe this is the first time you’ve heard of a defibrillator?
But it’s funny that’s the point you want to debate, why are you refusing to talk about your shift from “the cops let them in willingly” to “they only beat the cops to death”?
So they beat the cop, and that led to the heart failure. In my world that’s murder. Maybe not on fox news or whatever rag you’re breathing from, but in the real world it’s fucking murder ya clown.
You are aware that someone was justifiably shot to death for attempting to reach a protected person under siege right?
There were barricades and evacuations. There were calls for Pence’s head to be removed from his body because he didn’t do his part of the plan to realize the coup, there was planning prior to locate offices of persons of interest and escape routes, there was weapons confiscated before the event.
You don’t get to claim a protest because a single cop was sympathetic to the cause. But you know that. There is no ambiguity, at this point you are complicit in its white washing
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Holy crap you’re so completely delusional it’s scary
or maybe i just looked at the big picture of what happened
You can’t even cope with the fact they beat cops to death.
Ypu described it as “the cops let them in”
The irony in being in denial over all of the details while claiming to be looking at the big picture.
Lmao, then we have you. “I trust my feelings over facts.”
Nah I’m just not a statist that needs it to be an attempted insurrection to justify my rhetoric. BTW, real insurrections aren’t mostly unarmed staying inside the velvet ropes
Man look at this moron
Protests typically do not involve attempting to bash in interior windows, gaining access beyond barricaded doors, and armed officers having to resort to lethal measures to stop allegedly protestors.
Attempted insurrections do.
Got anything other than your precious feelings to back that statement up, snowflake?
And what did antifa do?
Short memory problem?
