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      Buddy he never had a chance with you, that’s why other guy said “nothing will ever be enough for you”

      Guy lost your vote the moment the letter “D” was in front of his name.

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        how in the name of fuck are we still doing this

        it’s absolutely wild that you people are still willing to die on the hill of “anybody who doesn’t want to vote for state sponsored genocide is a secret trump supporter”

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          Buddy, we’ve been watching you jackasses willing to die on a molehill for almost a decade now.

          Also, you literally said you’re a Trumpy, so…

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            i literally said i would hate to see trump win: i don’t see how that makes me a “trumpy”

            gender isn’t binary, sex isn’t binary, and the us needs to veer drastically towards socialist policies if it wants to keep from tearing apart at the seams

            what shibboleth would you like me to pass to validate that i am not in fact a secret right-winger, and am in fact just somebody who isn’t a terribly big fan of genocide?

            democrats have been rightfully decrying the right’s refusal to condemn the countless moral failings on their side of the aisle for almost a decade now, but the thing that finally has the left circling the wagons is a literal genocide?

            are you feeling okay?

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              i literally said i would hate to see trump win: i don’t see how that makes me a “trumpy”

              Then I assume you are voting for Biden if you are in a swing state, right?

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                please see previous comment:

                how in the name of fuck are we still doing this

                it’s absolutely wild that you people are still willing to die on the hill of “anybody who doesn’t want to vote for state sponsored genocide is a secret trump supporter”

                Voting in Biden again signals to the democratic party that their base are willing to accept genocide. Are you fine with that?

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                  Hate to break this to you but they do not hear you and they never will. Not voting or voting for a third party DOES NOT change the party platforms of the two major parties. Period. If it did, you would have seen major changes when Ross Perot took a massive chunk of votes. Twice. Guess what didn’t happen? The Democrats at least have a good chunk of them wanting military support for Israel to end. And allowing Trump to be president will do nothing but absolutely make things worse in Gaza. Are you fine with that? Because that is what you are calling for. What you are doing is pushing for an even worse genocide. Good job.

                  Instead, maybe stop focusing your energy on inaction and pushing for others to waste their energy also not acting. Push for systemic changes to our voting. Many localities have implemented alternative voting methods that are not first past the post and two states have as well. Push for more of that. Push for an increase in the number of House seats and push for states to have proportional voting to select their House members. Push to make the electoral college toothless. There are initiatives for all of those. Focus your energy on those so we are not forced to pick between a turd and a shit sandwich. What you are doing changes absolutely nothing and only helps the candidate furthest from your views.

                  That said, if you are not in a swing state, vote for whatever presidential candidate you want. Nobody fucking cares unless you are in a swing state. Still push for al those things I mentioned in my previous paragraph though.

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                    Hate to break this to you but they do not hear you and they never will.

                    You’re arguing that your vote doesn’t matter. If that’s true, why vote at all?

                    Your vote can’t simultaneously be important enough to swing an election, and insignificant enough that the democratic party is fine to just ignore it. So which is it?

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          Welcome to the war on independence.

          You’re either loyal to the tribe, or an enemy.

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        good lord how is it that every time i engage with a biden supporter it destroys the remaining faith i have that he might win reelection just that little bit more?

        yes i am sure you will win this man re-election through snide remarks

        fuck me

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          No, win with oh I don’t know what this thread and article is about: green energy effectively. But every time it’s always “but but but but but but but Biden bad!1!1!” Fuck me indeed, no conversation is even possible because it’s “but but but but but but but but but”. Ciao for real.

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            Waiting for the “but but but Biden bad and doesn’t do anything” comments.

            golly gosh i must be mis-remembering because in my recollection it was very blatantly you who brought it up

            i’m fine with small victories

            i’m not fine with people using those small victories to justify legitimate grievances against biden

            if you’re somebody who needs biden to win come november, you should absolutely be making plans right now that assume he won’t

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              The amount of point-missing that goes on with the left right now is astounding.

              Maybe Trump will get convicted and this all becomes moot, but I swear, there are a huge contingent of people that are so disgusted with Biden and the pro-Israel left that they won’t vote, even if they know it’ll mean Trump gets in. And the head in the sand, victim-blaming left will all cry about how nobody showed up because they couldn’t resist shitting on the centrists and pissing them off enough to stay home.

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          They’re indoctrinated beyond belief.

          You’re either with them, or against them.