• jet@hackertalks.com
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    6 months ago

    Saying dark patterns are the responsibility of the victims is a bold move when your also arguing EGS is better for consumers down the thread.

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      They guarantee some games see the light of day when they wouldn’t otherwise, that’s good for the consumers.

      Not having reviews on the same platform is a non issue when reviews are all over the place, available from places that don’t have a financial incentive to get you to purchase said games.

      It’s not as if there wasn’t any controversies around Steam reviews either, like deleting reviews from people who asked for a refund because a game was shit.

      https://www.zleague.gg/theportal/unmasking-the-chaos-steams-controversial-review-deletion-in-the-suicide-squad-gaming-community

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        6 months ago

        Reviews on third party platforms that are easily manipulated, shilled? No, thanks.

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            I’ve found steamers and reviewers not useful when it comes to PC ports, since they tend to review it more like console games. Most don’t even bother to try playing with a mouse and keyboard that sometimes stuff like negative acceleration is completely missed. Or ignore stuff like Fov or if the game has good remapping. Totalbiscuit was one of the few that focused on that stuff back in the day. Even digital foundry ignores stuff like that focusing more on performance.

            Even that thread you provided is a nice example of how even when manipulation takes place anonymous people have ability to make it known. I’ll take user driven input over youtubers or streamers and especially official review outlets.

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            6 months ago

            You appeared so condescending I didn’t read any of what you wrote

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        I get what you’re saying when we’re talking about physical boxes being sold back in the before times. In stores you didn’t have direct access to reviews. It was the cover art that drove the sale for most people unlisted heard the name before.

        In the digital age, in store reviews are often used as the most basic level of quality assurance. Manipulating them from the platform perspective, or removing them, etc is anti-consumer given the current expectations around the purchasing experience.

        I see the game with mixed reviews, I can try it, but I know I’m rolling the dice, and I’m relying on the two-hour return window for that roll.