• Nik282000@lemmy.ca
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      5 months ago

      Will that be an option? We found out this week that “deleting” photos from your iPhone only makes them inaccessible to YOU, they live forever on Apple’s servers. Why would MS operate any differently?

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        They weren’t on apples servers, people were deleting them from the photos app but it wasn’t deleting them from the actual filesystem.

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        You can literally kill off anything in windows, albeit with some effort in certain cases. Right down to their telemetry services everyone hates.

        Beyond that though, such a system would be quite a lot of load on the hardware running it. In fact, many low end hardware combinations that support 11 likely won’t be able to support such a feature. Not including an off button would be silly. In fact, not making it opt in, similar to gaming clip systems, would be a terrible idea.

        Comparing it to a locked down OS with a cloud service tie in I’d like comparing oranges to cars. All signs point to this feature being fully local. What are they going to do, hide gigabytes of video from you just to waste space?

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          You can literally kill off anything in windows, albeit with some effort in certain cases. Right down to their telemetry services everyone hates.

          For now. The only reason Microsoft doesn’t prevent you from removing or disabling components of Windows is that it is still an extreme edge case. Only a very small fraction of users actually take part in that kind of activity, if it were to become more popular Microsoft will start baking it in harder.

          Comparing it to a locked down OS with a cloud service tie in I’d like comparing oranges to cars.

          Windows is already headed down the road of locked down cloud dependency, and minimum specs are a user problem. Remember the thing with TPMs and W11?

          What are they going to do, hide gigabytes of video from you just to waste space?

          Have you looked at how much space Windows already takes up on your disk?

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            Decades of history exists in M$ not stopping users from modifying their systems however the hell they want. Your argument against that is “they might eventually.”

            How exactly is TPM requirement at all related to cloud anything? They absolutely aren’t moving to cloud dependency, the closest anyone has heard on that is them moving certain enterprise options to subscription, and rumors from unreliable sources. Again, your argument boils down to “they might eventually.”

            And what does their current install disk space have to do with anything? 20 gigs for an install is leaps and bounds different than an extra 50+ gigs being used out of nowhere.

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        Fair, but that’ll usually be a “fuck no” on their part, not a forced yes.

        That said, if your enterprise policies are going to enforce this, they already have something worse enforced as well such as screenshots being uploaded to a centralized database every x minutes. (I’ve personally experienced this.)