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we need both. because, at least in the US, money speaks really loudly about what laws we get, and can drown out the voices of the majority.
so we need to put pressure on both our legislators and the people with money - generally, the employers/corporations- to fund, support, and pass regulations.
which will only work until the unscrupulous assholes find loopholes, but that’s how it goes.
So if better labor laws is the goal, and unions are the vehicle, then better labor laws fixes this… I’m not anti union, I’m pro workers rights. All workers. I know its a pipe dream that will never happen, but I stand by my comment. If these workers didn’t need to pay dues and strike to get fair compensation due to it being required by law, it would be an improvement.
Pray tell, when did the big old dick of American legislature start to turn against unions? Oh about the time 7.25 was legislated to be the minimum wage.
Read. Educate yourself.
You believe the propaganda that they feed you. Stop being ignorant.
You’re not fucking listening dude. I tried being nice and explaining it to you but you just double down on “wE NeEd MoRe LaBouR lAwS” as if that isn’t fucking obvious.
That will never happen without unions. Whether or not you want to admit it, you NEED unions.
If you can’t accept that then fuck off and don’t bother responding anymore.
So you agree! Thank you, it is obvious we need better labor laws. I thought we were going to continue to butt heads for a little bit. Glad you came around. See, I’m listening.
Every law that is written has loopholes (whether intentional or not). The people who those laws affect exploit those loopholes to their advantage.
Laws are made up and easily ignored, sidestepped, weakened, etc.
Employers would pay you in daily food rations if they could get away with it. They’d also keep you locked up where you worked and you’d work days a week.
I’m hoping you’re just young and don’t know about labour history yet.
I dont know, there are plenty of countries that have solved these issues successfully, and many other US issues as well. I agree no law is perfect, but I’m sure you’d agree there’s certainly room for improvement in the current set in the US specifically.
I’m not young, I’ve spent many years criticizing US labor laws. I think Unions are a bandaid not available to most people.
That said, I hope the Union wins this for the workers of that specific industry, and for everyone else out there… Good fucking luck with your $7/hr and no insurance.
I do appreciate the only response I got without name calling. I didn’t think wanting fair labor laws would trigger the side I’m on against me.
Labor laws fix this. We shouldn’t need to gang up on employers.
we need both. because, at least in the US, money speaks really loudly about what laws we get, and can drown out the voices of the majority. so we need to put pressure on both our legislators and the people with money - generally, the employers/corporations- to fund, support, and pass regulations. which will only work until the unscrupulous assholes find loopholes, but that’s how it goes.
So if better labor laws is the goal, and unions are the vehicle, then better labor laws fixes this… I’m not anti union, I’m pro workers rights. All workers. I know its a pipe dream that will never happen, but I stand by my comment. If these workers didn’t need to pay dues and strike to get fair compensation due to it being required by law, it would be an improvement.
What do you think drives workers rights legislation?
Nothing. 7.25/hr with no sick/vacation time or insurance/retirement of any kind isn’t exactly winning
Pray tell, when did the big old dick of American legislature start to turn against unions? Oh about the time 7.25 was legislated to be the minimum wage.
Read. Educate yourself.
You believe the propaganda that they feed you. Stop being ignorant.
Wanting better rights for workers is me being fed propaganda…
What is it when you do it?
You’re not fucking listening dude. I tried being nice and explaining it to you but you just double down on “wE NeEd MoRe LaBouR lAwS” as if that isn’t fucking obvious.
That will never happen without unions. Whether or not you want to admit it, you NEED unions.
If you can’t accept that then fuck off and don’t bother responding anymore.
So you agree! Thank you, it is obvious we need better labor laws. I thought we were going to continue to butt heads for a little bit. Glad you came around. See, I’m listening.
Every law that is written has loopholes (whether intentional or not). The people who those laws affect exploit those loopholes to their advantage.
Laws are made up and easily ignored, sidestepped, weakened, etc.
Employers would pay you in daily food rations if they could get away with it. They’d also keep you locked up where you worked and you’d work days a week.
I’m hoping you’re just young and don’t know about labour history yet.
I dont know, there are plenty of countries that have solved these issues successfully, and many other US issues as well. I agree no law is perfect, but I’m sure you’d agree there’s certainly room for improvement in the current set in the US specifically.
I’m not young, I’ve spent many years criticizing US labor laws. I think Unions are a bandaid not available to most people.
That said, I hope the Union wins this for the workers of that specific industry, and for everyone else out there… Good fucking luck with your $7/hr and no insurance.
I do appreciate the only response I got without name calling. I didn’t think wanting fair labor laws would trigger the side I’m on against me.
The countries that have “solved these issues successfully” have strong unions.
And how did they solve them? By changing the labor laws right?
With Unions forcing change to labor laws.
So… Better labor laws fixes this?
No.
Then you are fighting for nothing?
Must be a union rep lol