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Yes. Adding a financial incentive to saying whatever everyone already wants to hear, is a brilliant idea that will definitely encourage genuine discussion.
Works for tictoc and instagram. afaik.
Right, both platforms that algorithmically isolate people into echo chambers, only showing people content that offends them in ways that polarises them further, so as to keep them doom-scrolling forever.
My point is that this isn’t conducive with a social platform that unites people and builds consensus, but one that extract’s money at the cost of inflaming divisions even further.
social platform that unites people and builds consensus, but one that extract’s money (…)
I mean, thats the point and to pretend that any social media was ever anything but that is to either be a historical revisionist or delusional.
Reddit may have had a different point when Swartz was around, but anything that takes venture capitol money is eventually beholden to their moral prerogative. And that is the extraction of all possible wealth in the shortest possible timeline, even at the cost of the platform itsself. That final bit is key. and its a bummer that Reddit didn’t go public before all this fucking around, because we could be making good money off their demise.
Wanting the world to be better is not “delusional”.
Identifying something that exacerbates the problems in human society and arguing against it, is not “revisionist”.
Just because humans tend to be tribal, doesn’t mean the only way to benefit from being a facilitator of communication, is to cynically feed that trait.
If anything, that puts you in an even greater position of responsibility to design the system to do good. Give a system all that humanity creates, and you can make it make you feel whatever you want.
That we are choosing “whatever makes me money” again and again does not mean “whatever will make us grow as a species” isn’t also an option.
Pretending that social media was ever meant for anything other than profiting is “revisionist”, and you are being delusional if you think otherwise.}
There might be better ways, sure. But that was never the point. The point was always to make as much money as possible.
And to be clear “we” aren’t “choosing” anything. You aren’t reddit, or twitter, or facebook. You have no agency in this relationship other than to not participate.
Why are you acting as if meaningless defeatist comebacks are somehow successful one-ups?
I’m not pretending to believe anything, I’m fully aware of how current reality works, and has worked. You mistaking my optimism for what might be possible to mean I think that’s how the world does work, is on your antagonistic starting point.
If you think profit is the only reason people set out to run companies, then you’re the one who is delusional.
And any one of us might alone not amount to much, but even this discussion between you and me will sway at least two minds one way or the other. Scale that up a thousand times, and the direction we take as a species is determined by the ideas exchanged between people, exactly as we are doing now, averaged out among us all.
If all you have to say is nihilistic bullshit about how we should just curl up and die because we can’t really ever do enough, then you can fuck off.
If you think profit is the only reason people set out to run companies, then you’re the one who is delusional.
If you take VC money, you play by their rules. Its not nihilistic to be realistic about the context of things.
And I appreciate your optimism, even if I consider it to be delusional. But to me that kind of ‘inactive hope’ is equivalent to what you accused me of doing (‘curl up and die’).
Proceeding through this world on hopes and prayers that a system set up to do anything but exploit and destroy will do anything but that is deeply problematic and contributes significantly to the issues. Its a kind of toxic positivity that gives people the illusion that they are doing something when they aren’t. I don’t have time for that.
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Wake up baby, a new money laundering scheme just launched.
Waiting for the next Spiff video
Totally won’t be abused by people reposting gilded comments and posts.
Is u/spez still there?
My intentions are to never go back to reddit. I’m never going to consider returning while he’s there.
I stop by and check the place out once in a while. You’re not missing anything. The place has become a dupsterfire filled with bots and spam. I have old comments from years ago getting new comments on them. They’re all bot comments. IDK why they are commenting on old posts, but they’re doing it a lot.
I got a reply to a 9.5 year old comment two days ago…
They’re getting desperate to get people back on their site. It’s such a shitshow that they need to bribe users to post.
I have no idea what you’re talking about. I peeked in on Reddit yesterday, the first post was some creep trying to find his step aunt’s Only Fans site. Advertisers are sure to love that.
the first post was some creep trying to find his step aunt’s Only Fans site. Advertisers are sure to love that.
Damn did he find the only fans? Thats horrible. What was it so I can avoid it?
It was on only fans.
Only fams.
Bots and Spam for fake internet points,
Now going to throw real money at it?
I didn’t think the bots and spam could get worse, but it will be.
You have earned $5.13 last month, bravo!
You can cash out when you have earned {roundup(earned * 2.0)}
Thank you {username}
So Reddit is now a camgirl site, but instead of weird simps paying girls to show their tits it’s weird simps paying other weird simps to… post shit?
This seems like a bad idea.
I wonder how much money laundering will occur because of this. I can also see any community discussing anything even remotely illegal that one could buy getting banned because of people using this feature to commit crimes and the shit admins overreacting because of it
Fuck reddit but a broken clock is right twice a day. Advertisers pay reddit because there are eyeballs on their site. Eyeballs are on their site because of the things people post. Shouldn’t the people making those posts be getting a chunk of that advertising money? Maybe some payment to mods for all their hard work? Do all the negative commenters prefer that reddit just… keep all the money for themselves and their shareholders?
wHaT abOut thE BotS? Yes, the bots are a problem, they are a problem because reddit actively decides to let them run rampant. There are many tried and true solutions to this problem and with an incentive system they actually become easier to control. It’s easier to control people with economic incentives. You can’t stop every bot but you can stop most bots and you can make botting harder and more expensive to the point that it’s not worth it for most would-be bot users.
Lmao what could possibly go wrong
