• Letsdothis@lemmy.world
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    Lol, yo… way to completely prove him right.

    Woah, it totally sounds like you should share your opinion on trans rights somewhere else then.

    This could be rephrased as “get out of my echo chamber”

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      Or it could be rephrased as “Shitheads should not be tolerated in any sensible community”. Transphobes, like homophobes and racists, should not be welcome amongst decent folk.

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        People don’t often grasp the Paradox of Tolerance and how it applies to others.

        If your ‘opinion’ is hateful rhetoric that trends towards intolerant towards the views of others, it is outside of the circle and is not/can not be tolerated.

        It’s not an echo chamber to say “we don’t argue about the existence/rights of lgbtq+ folks” in regular spaces. This isn’t the place for the conversation, and even if it was, the conversation has already been had. If you want that anachronistic shit in your own spaces, sure, but here in the modern world we’ve already come together in belief that that hokey old world shit doesn’t play.

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          Your ignorance of the cho chamber and claim that

          here in the modern world we’ve already come together in belief that that hokey old world shit doesn’t play.

          No… your imagined collective acceptance of issues only goes to show that the brain washing is thorough.

          Your imagined collective acceptance world is also smaller than you think. Get out and travel around and talk to people, you’ll see your views are not as widely accepted as you might think.

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        The ignorance…

        You might as well be sticking your fingers in your ears going “lalala! I cant hear you!” 👉 😩👈

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          Tbh, it seems like you’re the main party here sticking their fingers in their ears. If someone has already identified Lemmy as a place that doesn’t welcome their prejudices, then would they still post that stuff here?

          Look, I’ll be helpful. If you want to dunk on trans people, go to Mumsnet - that place has turned into TERF Central.

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            If you want to dunk on trans people, go to Mumsnet - that place has turned into TERF Central.

            I’m not into echo chambers despite if I agree with them or not. I don’t want, or need, to be surrounded by people who only agree with me. And I don’t care if you all want this to only be a liberal echo chamber, im not going anywhere. Quit being so damn sensitive.

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            It’s the ignorant denial of this place being an echo chamber. The whole trans group is like this.

            Or it could be rephrased as “Shitheads should not be tolerated in any sensible community.” Transphobes, like homophobes and racists, should not be welcome amongst decent folk.

            It’s the insulting inclusion of others, using ignorant generalizations and stereo types (edit:and assumptions). No one is getting hurt because of factual logical opposition. Trans women are not real women. This is a biological fact. Talk about being fragile. Does it hurt to hear this opinion? I’m so sorry it might hurt your feelings. You might be a trans woman, but you still have balls, use them

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              No one is getting hurt because of factual logical opposition. Trans women are not real women. This is a biological fact.

              Sorry, wrong on two counts.

              Although they’ve been used interchangeably, because typically they align, sex and gender are two separate concepts. I’m sorry if this offends you.

              Trans women are women (gender), although they are not biologically female (sex).

              These are facts. I’m sorry if this offends you.

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                If anything is offensive, it is the delusions…

                Trans women are women (gender), although they are not biologically female (sex).

                To call a person who is male (sex) a woman (gender) is creating an illusion… I don’t care of these people want to pretend to be the opposite gender, but stop with delusions.

                Women = female. These people are female. You can’t start creating new definitions of words.

                I’ll say it again… Trans women are not REAL women. They are pretend women. Why create confusion? Let’s be truthful about facts.

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                  Sorry pal, it’s not me creating these “new” definitions of words. Take it up with the Gender Studies bods who are literal experts in this field.

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                    I’ll make this really simple…

                    Some men want to be called women. Fine! They can call them themselves whatever they want. As soon as anyone starts to tell me that it is a requirement that I have to use the pronoun that they have chosen, thats too far. I’ll call every single person I know “bub” male or female. That’s MY choice. If you can’t handle that, maybe you’re being insensitive.

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                    People can be whatever the hell they want. I’m not arguing that. It’s the classifications. It’s delusional. I’m not arguing that a person can pretend to be whatever, but I’m not going to participate in their delusion and call a man a woman.