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Netflix says people just kind of rolled over and accepted the password sharing crackdown::Netflix subscriptions are up almost 6 million this quarter, suggesting we’re all just too exhausted to fight this stuff
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well done everyone
I had a feeling they would but I did leave myself. Only problem is the person I was sharing with made an account so it was a net 0 impact.
I get the feeling that the kind of person that is on Lemmy is the kind of person that ain’t gonna take no shit and drop it just to stick to the man. I myself dropped Netflix but seems to be a common theme here.
The kind of person on lemmy is probably already self hosting a plex server that has all the content they care about and sharing it with their inner circle
Started mine a few months back
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I dropped them shortly after 4k hit $20 a month. They don’t have shit thats worth that.
Honestly I mostly stopped using it a couple years ago. Only when I was bored and was surfing for something to watch. The main reason I had it was for my retired inlaws, so after I cancelled I ended up setting them up with their own account though at a lower rate. So I still consider it a loss for them.
I live for pointless squabbles with the man
I know the feeling. I hate Netflix with a passion but my SO uses it. I have a Plex server full of stuff and constantly adding and showed her how. I cancel Netflix every month though 😂 can usually make it a day or 2 passed when it was supposed to renew before she uses it again and resubscribes.
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I just made my own personal Netflix, with blackjack and hookers.
Jellyfin is the way.
I am already a Plex user but I gave Jellyfin a try. Hoping to ditch Plex and fully self host it. But unfortunately I use Chromecast on all the TVs in my house and the Jellyfin Chromecast integration is terrible :(
Nearly 2000 movies, over 200 series, over 50 anime movies and about 300 animes in mine, sharing it with 30 other friends and family. Currently looking into automations for it. This is the way.
Sonarr and Radarr are your friends for automation (TV and Movies) there is another arr for music but I don’t use that one.
My workflow is essentially:
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Queue up what I want in *arr
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It sends request to sabnzbd
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Better qualities that I want are updated automatically, new episodes are downloaded automatically.
Add overseer in the mix and you’ve got it made. I have overseer watching my plex watch list, so when I add something, in a few minutes it’s available to watch. It helps having a 1gb pipe as well.
There’s a setting in Plex which looks for changes to its folders, and refreshes your library automatically. I have that on, and I see my *arr shows/movies in Plex within a minute or two of being added.
Overseer monitors the watch list (or you can directly request from the portal) and then goes to either sonarr or radarr and adds them. Useful if you have some users you share your library out to and you want to let them request stuff. There’s also an approval system so your storage doesn’t get filled up by crap.
This is the way.
Best pipeline to get the content you want to watch.
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looking into some automation for it.
FTFY
Hey, where are you getting the movies from?
Would be cool to have some sort of catalogue that can be used to pick the movie that you want to torrent, and then Plex can just stream that to the clients and cache it for others to see too.
That way no automations are needed. Just watch stuff like in any streaming service.
I closed my family shared account and started pirating Netflix shows/movies instead.
We paid for the convenience. I will happily just pirate if that’s what they want 🤷
I started pirating again when they set a price for multiple screens a few years ago. Fuck these companies, don’t let them take an inch.
Yep, I started to pirate everything again. I’ve never been happier with the quality and convenience. Not just limited to Netflix and watching movies of the highest quality from private trackers.
Funny when things come back full circle.
Turns out lemmy users aren’t representative of the greater public.
Of course the person using a shared password either left (saving Netflix money) or got their own subscription (giving Netflix money).
Netflix doesn’t care that people who weren’t paying stopped using their service.
That’s not really true when ads are in the mix
It’s spin. The additional subscriptions came from markets where Netflix is cheap. Not North America.
“While the company added subscribers, it said average revenue per member fell 3% from a year earlier. That was partly because many of the new sign-ups came in countries where Netflix charges lower prices.”
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Netflix just dumped one of those lower tiers you mentioned (though existing subscribers at that tier are currently grandfathered in). The same article I linked to points out that they also aren’t seeing the uptake for their ad supported tier they’d hoped for. And they’re already coaching that next quarters guidance will be down further. I expect more churn as Netflix quality continues to decline and competition and prices continue to increase.
I’m curious to see how streaming services are going to be affected by the strikes. Theoretically down the road they’ll reach a point for a while where they have very little new content to release and will be fighting each other for the rights to existing content.
Just curious, are we sure the numbers reported are “net gain” and not “number of new subscribers”? Distinction being “number of new subscribers” would be all the people that signed up, and “net gain” would be all the people that signed up & subtract those that canceled?
Earnings reports are always full of word tricks to paint the prettiest picture so I’m just curious if we know the net number?
For example, all those articles that came out a week after the change went into effect were bullshit bc they didn’t take into account people who canceled and still had days left til their end of month, instead they only captured the 3 days after the policy change and Netflix got all the media to report this awesome stat for them.
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Cheers, thank you.
Netflix says a lot of things, some aren’t true
The American people are so hopelessly broken, it’s shameful.
Not me. When me and hubby couldn’t watch different shows at the same time in the same house a room apart, I cancelled the account and never looked back. They’ll never get my money again.
Me either. I left when they rolled that rule out in South America last year to test it. Netflix forgot that we went to them because cable was extorting us. As long as the internet remains a thing, there will always be other options.
Yep I cancelled mine. Not worth it. The shows they have been coming out with aren’t even very good and they lost a lot of old favorites
Same. Super annoying.
I thought this was the exact reason why they bundle multiple streams with almost all subscriptions. To provide multiple people in a household the option to stream their own stuff. Did you have only one single stream?
I replied earlier, but I guess it didn’t stick for some reason. Yes, we have only one single stream.
Yes, only one single stream
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I haven’t because Netflix hasn’t given me a good solid reason to return to them.
I wouldn’t exactly say everyone is too tired to fight this stuff. Because, a bubble has yet to burst somewhere if it hasn’t already. Netflix just fails to see the bigger picture of this problem and once that bubble bursts, the bubble of financial strains on society, they’ll feel it tenfold.
Large thinking on your part here. However, the issue is people will purchase it no matter what. Your efforts to stamp Netflix out personally are great but they are overshadowed by a company that makes millions and doesn’t need your 13 to 14 dollars a month to stay subscribed.
If we want to show companies we aren’t going to participate then we have to indefinitely convince the population not to participate. That isn’t going to happen. These companies know that they will make money and people will keep buying.
This applies to almost any industry. Take something more environmental. I haven’t eaten fish in 3 years because of how bad the fishing industry is. Mind you I am hypocrite and eat chicken and beef and those industries are just as bad but I am trying to cut back on them as well. Problem is, my one little attempt to not aid in the fishing industries endeavors are swamped by the millions that don’t care, are oblivious by choice or, just would rather exist in a world where there are no problems.
The truth is the big companies should hold a responsibility but our laws (at least in the U.S.) fine them small amounts of what they make double of. Their are no laws to truly stop massive corporations because the corporations are fined rather than the people running the company and that is by design because technically the fisherman can’t be held accountable in the companies wrong doings if the CEO was the one doing the wrong doings but the fisherman is aiding those wrong doings unknowingly so you punish the company not the people running it.
Then it boils down to if you can’t change the company then it becomes the people’s responsibility and we have one but we blame the company and or ignore our responsibility.
The truth is it’s everyone’s responsibility. The companies the people’s. The human equation just doesn’t care. People aren’t going to stop watching Netflix over money the same as they won’t stop giving fishing companies money to kill the ocean that gives Earth life. Because there is no immediate effect to their lives. It only matters to most when it’s too late.
We could divulge into a thousand topics. This isn’t meant to discourage your efforts. Don’t pay Netflix save your money but getting on Lemmy and stating, “Netflix will fall.” Can only happen when people give a damn just like you or when the companies give a damn. Companies have one incentive, money. People have incentive to buy a product if it works and brings some form of usefulness to their lives. No matter how you look at it or how much an end user wants to bitch about money. The truth is Netflix works so we are going to spend money to use it.
You could apply this to Google Search, Apple products, etc. There is no incentive to allow competition, care about your privacy, care about your well being, if the incentive or money takes precedence. Additionally, that means we have a problem but on the other hand. You know what works? Google Search, do you know what gives Google Search the edge? Your data and money. You know why iPhone is popular because it’s easier to buy an iPhone to talk to friends and the messaging just works. You know the problem with Apple products? No incentive to switch to better platforms like RCS over SMS. Apple doesn’t want to change the consumer should and we will keep buying their product.
Point being people have to truly change to change a company.
Well that’s depressing
Stories like this are weird. As are the reactions.
It’s a nominal cost for a lot of content. Some people lost access to it because they were sharing accounts, and millions who did decided that it was worth the $12 or whatever to get their own account.
And?
And most of those new accounts are in countries where there was no password crackdown and Netflix lost about 8% on share price so they want to spin the idea
I would counterargue it is different from a traditional price increase. Netflix basically ‘‘backstabbed’’ their consumers, by altering the contract they followed for years and even repeteadly made marketing and promises in that regard (all the ‘‘sharing netflix with family and friends is an expression of love’’ posts).
If the price had increased, it would be another reaction, but this new house limitation is really a petty move that feels a lot worse. I hope the other streamings just increase the price and let people share the same account.
I really wanted to cancel my subscription. I consider piracy to be a moral option against the aggressively repressive sonny bono copyright law. But I can’t pull the rug out from my mom’s feet back home (I live in another state). So instead of getting to cancel in protest like how I want, I still just pay for one Netflix subscription that I don’t use personally.
If you go the piracy route you can get her a lot more content for the cost of some electricity and some usenet indexers, or have a friend willing to host a Plex server
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When I was last home I did set up Jellyfin from my dad’s PC (which is basically always on) and downloaded a few movies for them. But some of the movies had inconsistent subtitles or needed massaging. Or Jellyfin needed to take an extra moment to transcode the subtitle format for some reason. So if I were able to ensure that stuff is all sorted out, it works great. But if I’m not there it might get weird.
Fair enough
You should look into hosting a Plex server for her. My brother set one up after I cancelled our Netflix and our tech-illterate mother loves it. The only change for her was moving from clicking on the Netflix icon on her TV to clicking on the Plex icon.
This is the way to go if you really want to be a pro piracy advocate.
Most people can’t be bothered with the complexities of torrents or codecs. Luckily that’s my shit, and I put together a 4x16TB NAS setup and started hosting a Plex instance for family initially, then added some coworkers. It’s a fun little hobby, and my users are able to save on streaming services.
Also, I’ve found a majority of users really don’t care much about quality, so I’m able to serve up multiple streams on only 40Mbps upload without noticing any network slowdowns.
If she’s on your account, in another state, you were not cracked down.
But that highlights the spin these companies exploit through inconsistent or partial abuse. Like every Chrome or Windows update where someone can say ‘just jump through hoops X Y and Z’ or ‘it still works on my machine.’ The impact is softened and the backlash is robbed of momentum. Six months later the problem is enforced mercilessly, but all the Google results are outdated excuses and confusion.
So are you saying I could still log in and use Netflix on my laptop? I haven’t tried out of fear of messing something up.
Voting with your wallet doesn’t work when there are so many other wallets out there that don’t care.
I mean that’s the point of voting. Sensibility got outvoted unfortunately
Sure, and I didn’t care if they died I just wanted to save more money. Now I stream and torrent everything and the ones who choose to pay can do so if they please.
Sure, but I’m saving $20 a month now so that’s nice.
Morons. Stop paying more for less services.
