• GBU_28@lemm.ee
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    6 hours ago

    It will absolutely solve the problem,.

    People dont want to die > People stop doing things that make others want to kill them > Success

    Edit if y’all don’t see how I’m being sarcastic, and this reply is about how the death penalty does not deter crime, I don’t know what to tell ya.

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      5 hours ago

      You can’t change the system while they own it and you can’t jail them when they own the prisons as well as the ones that should be putting them there.

      What do you suggest?

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        Well, non violent seizing of the means via unionizing and community action via grassroots electorate driven by transparent mutual aid.

        But once you sign on to get the executions starting, you better hope you’re in the “in group” all along. Else the violence will eventually come for you (not you you, hypothetical anyone)

        And back to my point, the death penalty will just make them crafty, it won’t stop greed.

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          4 hours ago

          Okay so once you’ve non violently seized the means, and they come to violently take them back, then what?

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            If you’ve seized em you’ve seized em. The system is no longer available for their exploitation. So did you or didn’t you?

            Again, have fun with the violence, but once that cat is out of the bag you always get 2 things:

            1. Spillover violence outside the “pure” original intentions
            2. Power vacuum
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                3 hours ago

                I’ve fundamentally contested what you said.

                If you have seized the means and systems, the billionaire class are by definition deplatformed.

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                  3 hours ago

                  But still not answered the question.

                  I’ll reword it for you, since you want to be pedantic about it.

                  You’re in the process of seizing the means. They see this and don’t like it. They respond with overwhelming violence (as they have repeatedly in the past)

                  Now what?

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                    2 hours ago

                    If peacefully unionizing or organizing folk are attacked, they are morally free to defend themselves, even in an organized way.

                    Establishing killsquads and public executions will not stay “pure” and will cause massive spill over violence.

                    There’s an important distinction between the two.

                    Above I provided a meaningful reply to “what’s your solution”. You can argue it might not be effective, but I’m certainly not avoiding anything. I made my point, and my suggestion.