This is a technology community, and (whether you like it or not) Twitter being rebranded to X is pretty big news in the world of tech.
Especially with the slipshod way they are doing with it, there is bound to be a lot of articles covering different weird tangential effects from the rush job.
Yeah I don’t like this. Can’t we just use our upvotes to decide which news are important?
Are you really suggesting that we take the low quality Reddit approach to high quality subs like /r/funny?
I suppose this is what happens when the lowest common denominator goes down coupled with ignorance of how the lowest common denominator affects community quality.
Communities lose their niche by catering to the lowest common denominator and become homogeneous with each other. This has been a long-standing phenomena on Reddit, one which I would expect to not be carried over to Lemmy since it’s largely a symptom of a user base that has more interest in memes, funnies, and celebrity worship than discussion and real news.
The point is that news about Twitter rebranding is simply not related to technology. This is a technology community. These submissions should not even be posted in the first place to have the opportunity to be voted on.
I keep downvoting them. But I am apparently alone.
How many posts on Twitter is in your feed? Sorting by Hot, I see only two posts on Twitter, not including your post. Same if I sort by New.
Even if it is only 1 it is more than it should be.
If that’s what you think I suggest you to start looking for filter options, maybe some apps already have them.
It’ll be funny to see because he’ll have to block the letter X
Yeah well I bet it is gonna be called Twitter for a while yet (the best option would be they keep calling it Twitter lol).
Could be a solution. But what if that company has an actual tech news, like release a new open source software or started contributing to a given web standard.
Well, then I guess you should put your priorities on a balance before making any filtering route.
If it helps for something I also get tired of repetitive news (especially because I’m subbed to many tech communities), but I just scroll and hide (Voyager and Summit), so not much of my “time is lose”.
Then maybe this isn’t the community for you.
Twitter’s been a big deal for a long time. So, to expect nobody to post about it is unreasonable.
It’s hard not to upvote because fuck Elon. But at the same time its all dumb shit.
It’s a lose lose situation.
I don’t know if it works, but I found this post where someone claims to have made a keyword filter. https://sh.itjust.works/post/1715366 I don’t think you’ll be able to filter out “X” though
I was like, " Yeah! Downvote the musk posts" Then I proceeded to down vote the top post because it’s about Elon Musk.
Twitter being rebranded to X is pretty big news in the world of tech.
Maybe, but we have seen it now. If every fart of Musk needs a new thread, maybe better to make a Musk group.
reddit used to have r/EnoughMuskSpam lol
There’s !enoughmuskspam@lemmy.world
Unfortunate how they spam musk themselves
Yeah I never got the gimmick of that sub because it’s actively contributing to the problem. Guy lives rent free in their heads and they have to take it out on the rest of us.
Big news, yes. But not tech related at all. Those Elon news should be on TMZ.
Twitter being rebranded to X is pretty big news in the world of tech.
Is it? It doesn’t change anything.
twitter isn’t relevant in technological development, it’s just a toxic social media site which hasn’t changed in any significant way since its inception (technologically speaking)
I agree with you that no one in the tech world is looking at Twitter for advice atm, but to say nothing changed at Twitter in any significant way since it’s inception is disingenuous at best. Twitter’s rapid growth and adoption led to the development of a number of key technologies needed to run global 24/7 uptime services at scale, just to name one macro example.
That is not Tech news that is business news.
What technology was developed, explored, integrated, improved, or otherwise innovated or more broadly applied by this?
Nothing, it does nothing, it’s a branding decision, business news, not tech news.
Curious, those criteria you listed out are not present anywhere I can see in the community rules.
Perhaps you should petition the mods to change them if you feel so strongly about it.
The side car says this community is about technology news. I don’t think they should list everything it’s not, but maybe clarify if news about the tech industry are wanted or not.
Is this place called technology news, or technology? Asking for a friend
Neither. It’s a rant about “Twitter/Elon/whatever billionaire does something stupid today” community.
As you can see, nothing tech related. Just people related to the tech industry somehow
It is definitely very big news, but I guess the amount of articles on that topic is overshadowing the rest of tech news.
Maybe we could consider that news relative to Twitter/X should be on their own community, that users can choose to subscribe, ignore or block?
No, a rebrand is not a true technological news. It is regular news. Same would apply if Pizza company changed it’s name. Internal policy changes of a website are not technological news either. Appointing a new director or firing staff, is still are not technological. Sure they its news, but have nothing to do with technology.
I agree. I don’t use Twitter and I really don’t know much about Elon, but when one of the wealthiest people in the world is doing something with a major tech company, Id like to be somewhat informed
Elon must stay rich from living in everyone’s heads rent-free…
I’d rather want to know why we have 10 posts about twitter changing it’s name but the one post about grindr employees unionizing gets removed because it’s apparently not tech related
Are unionization posts getting removed here? That seems against the whole idea of an open internet here.
Wait, what? I dont give a fuck about the elon musk shit, but I care about grindr employees. Seems this community is earning a block from my side
Or limit it to a pinned permathread?
Just call it “Elon Madness”
One for Elon, and another for Reddit.
Melon ad-ness. It’s partly newsworthy but mostly free publicity.
That’s what !technology@beehaw.org does: https://lemmy.ml/post/2431344
Currently chatting with the other mods about this and while we don’t want the community to be overrun by Elon, the articles are some of the most upvoted in the past few days. It seems, that people do want to hear about what’s going on but not at a rate that drowns out other content. We’ve been careful to prune out duplicates to keep the flow down, but the volume of Elon posts and Twitter / X is definitely… a lot. I do see how some find it annoying so we’re keeping an eye on the situation, but I do agree it does meet the criteria of being both news and tech related. I assume that he’ll eventually run out of Twitter pieces to break, right :P
Please do keep an open line of communication with us and all replies, feedback and opinions are always welcome! Cheers!
I believe the upvotes mainly come from rage engagement. I don’t wanna see them either, but they provoke a reaction.
It’s not rage, it’s amusement from watching the slow motion train wreck.
why did you remove the Grindr unionization post
@enu reply to this please
Great, and thank you for implication and consideration. This community, like any other needs some rules or guide lines. Yet, if people are interested in other topics, they can just subscribe to communities about those other topics.
To be more precise, “technology” “technology news” and “news” are very different subjects that may have their own communities.
I see the role of moderators as guiding the flow of people’s interests. If you went solely on upvotes, it wouldn’t matter what you called the community or whether it had moderators. If you want it to be about technology, make it that way. If you want it to be about the business decisions of social media companies tangentially related to technology, at least do the kindness of changing the name so that people don’t mistakenly come here thinking they’ll hear about new technology.
Like it or not, it’s tech news. When Intel does something interesting, or Google wets the bed again, we’ll talk about that a lot, then. Right now it’s Elon doing dumb stuff. Last month it was spez. If we ban every hot news topic, what’s left to discuss?
I was under the impression that this was a community to discuss technology, not one that discusses the business decisions of companies in the technology sector, and certainly not the decisions of a social media company that is only tangentially related to the technology sector.
Whether we like it or not, it’s pretty damn hard to separate technology from business (and also politics)
The direction of technological advancement, as it stands today, is largely driven by businesses. What technologies are developed and what they get used for, depends on who’s throwing money at it and how they want to make money from it.
Don’t get me wrong, I’m sick of hearing about Musk. But the internet is one of the most amazing technological achievements humanity has ever created, and a lot of people use it for Twitter/X, and so their business decisions have pretty far-reaching implications for the rest of the internet. Trying to ignore that leaves out big chunks of the picture.
I think you’re missing the point that we’re here to discuss technology not the business of it.
Just because technology is driven by business processes doesn’t mean that this form must also be consumed by discussion over business processes that are only somewhat related to technology.
I’m not sure why this distinction is difficult. If you want a technology politics community then make one, stop polluting technology with technology politics.
I disagree. It’s not tech news. Twitter or X losing a few subscribers to mastadon or threads is a Sunday. And on Monday we’ll get an article about people moving in the other direction. Distilling entire categories of news to one person or company makes us less informed, not more. We’re just echoing the same talking points back and forth at eachother.
I’m definitely not saying Elon or Twitter is NEVER tech news but, jesus, I don’t need or want to know about every tweet he makes and every shit he takes. I also don’t think these things shouldn’t be recorded in some way. But the magnitude it’s posted is straight up Elon worship whether you hate him or support him.
I do what I’m able and willing by downvoting items that aren’t news or discussion-worthy and not interacting with those comment sections but there is just so much. Is there a place to just read news about technology and not tech business tweets turned into “news” stories? This is a genuine question if someone has info.
I guess it’s subjective, but from my perspective the weekly thought bubbles of billionaire / millionaire owners of tech companies is not what I think of when I think about “tech news”.
Is the solution here to have megathreads?
For me personally I’d be happy enough for someone to create a redditandtwitternews community and then ban any such news from this community - but I’m pretty sure my views on this are not generally held.
Edit: actually no, I don’t think it is really subjective. If twitter invented a new database language that would be tech news. A social media company re-branding is not tech news.
There is now a megethread about said site.
I support your idea.
My favorite technology is bronze smelting.
What about you guys?
Personally I’m more of an irrigation fanboy. I just love an efficient way to get water to my crops.
My favorite is any system for writing. That’s when we started sending actual information into the future. An argument could be made for art on cave walls, and that does communicate with future humans, but the meaning is interpreted rather than dictated.
But it isn’t. Culture and technology was transmitted into the future for millennia prior to writing was developed.
I like cement. Roman cement with quicklime. Shit cracks on the limestone flakes which erode and re-calcify within all the micro-fractures. Fuckin Romans were mad smart.
I’m a pretty big fan of food preservation. Ancient methods like smoking and pickling, to modern ones like freeze drying. Shout out Steve1989MREInfo!
Do you smelt bronze from bars or can you smelt directy from some ores of copper and tin?
The plow. The greatest of all inventions.
I personally feel the trebuchet is the pinnacle of engineering, which is the superior siege weapon.
Pff, where’s my lever gang at?
Huge fan of lead refinement.
Hear, hear! I’m so sick of watching that douche get all the free publicity in the world. It’s like his haters haven’t all figured out that this why he does half the shit he does.
Ex- fucking- xactly! People keep talking about him. I don’t understand fucking why. My suspicion is that they have a team of people to open discussions about him, so the media is talking abiut him. Otherwise I cant imagine someone that wants to keep talking about him. Its nuts! Just let him die already.
I watch because it’s my favorite train wreck
Seriously idgaff about how a media business is performing.
Agreed. News about X is not news about technology.
I get why we all talk so much about Elon, but man I wish collectively as a society we could all agree to stop talking about him so he could disappear into obscurity
Yes! Social media gossip is NOT “technology”.
But it’s news about tech.
It is not
It’s about a website that is on the internet that runs on technology
And by your swiss cheese logic, everything we do these days is tech news.
It’s a common fallacy that drops community quality like a rock.
It’s like programming horror being flooded with things that aren’t even marginally related to programming. But since technically all our technology is programmed, then it’s technically programming related.
Well now all I can think of is cheese while I’m on a technology community. My day is ruined.
Sounds like an improvement though.
Are you seriously trying to argue that social media is not technology?
Electrons go zoomy through the internets
Tubes or something like that
Yeah. Just because a tech company does something, that doesn’t make it technology news. Call me when there’s actual technologic development coming out.
my coffee maker has Bluetooth
So that it can hear music and take work calls without disturbing you while it makes you coffee?
Found a handy script to minimize this:
https://greasyfork.org/en/scripts/471718-lemmy-post-keyword-filter
I’m almost ready to block this domain. Bunch of Musk shit and bad news all around.
Well most big tech is going to shit so bad news is still news.
Agreed whats more annoying is getting double X posts back to back
Removed by mod
Your kinda right. It’s more the back to back nature of Elon posts that’s annoying.
I kinda found out changing Lemmy’s sorting algorithm from Active/Hot to New posts helps spread out the news (and even helps unearth lesser covered issues).
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We need c/enoughMuskSpam
Yes, please! One more community about Musk clogging up my feed.
No, it’s about telling the posters to post Musk related content exclusively in that community.
Yeah, that’s not gonna work
I’m not seeing how this is related. Make a rule in the sidebar which tells the poster to post Musk content that community instead. And if he still posts, it can be auto-deleted/locked (not sure if this capability exists in Lemmy yet).
Edit: Also, the community won’t be on your feed if you block it. It can be a nice automod feature to automatically move posts to another community if it detects Musk/Twitter/X keyword in the title.
I guess it might help channel all the effort and energy into one dedicated community that you can simply unsubscribe from. Like a honey pot trap.
You are not going to get people who want to see Twitter covered as technology to go into a community made by people who don’t think Twitter should be covered as technology
Joining a community centered solely around content you want to avoid seems counter-productive.
This community’s best use case is finding niche and/or new and exciting tech ideas and tools
