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    23 hours ago

    Let’s assume for a moment that the abducters here were federal agents.

    How long before people get the bright idea that they can pull a stunt like this without being federal agents? Has that already happened?

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        I suppose the scenario I was really thinking of is one where someone is literally abducted by adults, and not just fucking idiot kids playing fuck around.

        Which has happened in the article posted here, we’re just taking them on their word that they’re actually federal agents.

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          Yeah, this was the part that really got me:

          “Show us a warrant,” the video shows one of the two women demanding as they attempt to get between the detainers and the detainee.

          “Do not touch me or impede me in my lawful duties,” the man in the pink shirt responds. “We are officers from Homeland Security.”

          That’s a real bully-logic move right there. How are we supposed to know that these are your lawful duties if you’re refusing to show us your warrant or even your badge? Like, if she had blocked them at this point and the issue were brought to court (and yes, it’s ironic that this is happening in a court), then I can’t imagine a jury saying “well yeah, you can’t prevent a guy from abducting someone just because he won’t give you any indication other than a pinky swear that he has the legal authority to do it.” But, of course, the obvious implication in the moment was that since he was from the “abduct people in an unmarked van with unlimited authority” branch of the government, this wasn’t going to a jury trial, and she was either getting out of the way or she was going in the van too.

          I dunno, man. It’s scary.

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            So what I’m gathering here, is if you can get some friends together, you can get yourself out of court in a pinch.

            This is not behavior they want to encourage long term

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      Pretty sure some people showed up at San Francisco City Hall claiming to be with DOGE and demanding they be given access to personal files.

      The staff refused and when they finally called the police the men claiming to be with DOGE fled the scene.

      It was just some insane MAGA duds pretending to be with DOGE.

      Especially with ICE going into schools and other previous safe zones now, think about how easy it would be for people to take advantage of these situations.

      If a person is already willing to kidnap someone, do you really think they wouldn’t easily be willing to disguise their own identity, command authority and prey on people’s fears of retaliation for not complying?