That’s why the rhetoric is so focused on kids. You torture/conversion therapy/get them to Jill themselves, then act like being trans is a “phase” or “fad” or mental illness or ploy to molest girls. There aren’t supposed to be “real” trans adults.
What does Trump’s executive order do other than say trans people are not allowed to exist then? I forgot the part where there was a carve out for trans people.
My friend, anyone who watches the news on an occasional basis knows that you’re lying, and that you know you’re lying. I’m not sure why you’re wasting our time, or yours.
Do you know what disqualifies you from military service? You don’t. If you’re prescribed pills for depression or even for being suicidal, you’re disqualified for military service. You can’t even lie about it, because they use a genesis program that will list everything.
I have zero regrets about my transition. It really sucks that the place I live treats me as a second class citizen for being transgender, but that is on them and not me.
Your comments about trans medical care reveal a profound ignorance which isn’t worth engaging with. You aren’t a doctor, and your opinions on endocrinology are probably worth as much as bathroom graffiti. Your opening paragraph is a bunch of stupid, hysterical non sequiturs with no relevance to the current conversation.
So trans people don’t have to take hormones for the rest of their lives?
And if you think those questions were irrelevant, they were in direct response to yours.
The subject at hand is trans joining the military.
So if a trans person who has to take hormones for the rest of their lives, why should they be able to join if a person with clinical depression takes medication for it can’t?
You do know that I don’t have to be an endocrinologist to know what disqualifies you for the military?
Didja know that not all trans people take hormones? Also, they aren’t always in pill form - your comments so far seem to indicate that you have absolutely no idea how trans medical care works. T can even be in pellets which you take every few months.
People who are on medications can join the military. I imagine someone with medical qualifications in endocrinology would be the person to make that call.
The military allowed trans people under Obama and Biden with no issues.
Maybe don’t talk about issues you know nothing about?
I never said it was an issue. Like I said before, they’d have to be non deployable. I really don’t care. People can get waivers for some conditions, but not for asthma or depression, you seem to be skirting around the main issue here.
The trans who don’t take hormones won’t pass for their desired gender lol
You don’t even want to join the military. You know nothing about the military. The qualifications are a bit strict given the nature of the military.
I know more about military qualifications than you do.
The trans who don’t take hormones won’t pass for their desired gender lol
My first speeding ticket was before I started testosterone. The officer wrote male. My drivers license still said female.
I do shots, once a week. Started every other week. No deleterious medical effects over the past ten or so years, barring some issues with high blood cell count, which is fairly easy to manage/eliminate. I do it myself - I’m shit at z-tracking but eh, must not be fucking it up too much. Just to give you a data point, because you seem ignorant about trans people in general and I’m glad to educate.
In a military context I can imagine it would be problematic to give oneself injections, but there are gels and the pellets. Estrogen is a pill, can also be injected. But the thing is, you can go without hormones and it’s survivable. Testosterone shortages have been a routine issue forever. It’s not like having to skip a week detranses you.
I’m not questioning your knowledge of the military - I am questioning your knowledge of medicine.
Not every role within the military is a combat role. I very much doubt that people with asthma or flat feet are barred working, for example, as analyst in military intelligence. And if the military does then the military should scrounge up some actual intelligence.
Military intelligence is an oxymoron, no such thing. I wouldn’t have a problem if trans or people with asthma join, they’d have to be non deployable and have a desk job or something similar
Because we aren’t supposed to exist.
That’s why the rhetoric is so focused on kids. You torture/conversion therapy/get them to Jill themselves, then act like being trans is a “phase” or “fad” or mental illness or ploy to molest girls. There aren’t supposed to be “real” trans adults.
The only people saying trans people aren’t allowed/supposed to exist are trans people claiming others are saying it when they’re not.
What does Trump’s executive order do other than say trans people are not allowed to exist then? I forgot the part where there was a carve out for trans people.
My friend, anyone who watches the news on an occasional basis knows that you’re lying, and that you know you’re lying. I’m not sure why you’re wasting our time, or yours.
Did you forget that executive order that Trump signed?
Removed by mod
Lots of people are prescribed pills for lots of things. What the hell does that have to do with anything? You know it doesn’t.
Do you know what disqualifies you from military service? You don’t. If you’re prescribed pills for depression or even for being suicidal, you’re disqualified for military service. You can’t even lie about it, because they use a genesis program that will list everything.
You’re just a virtue signaler.
I have zero regrets about my transition. It really sucks that the place I live treats me as a second class citizen for being transgender, but that is on them and not me.
Your comments about trans medical care reveal a profound ignorance which isn’t worth engaging with. You aren’t a doctor, and your opinions on endocrinology are probably worth as much as bathroom graffiti. Your opening paragraph is a bunch of stupid, hysterical non sequiturs with no relevance to the current conversation.
Try again.
So trans people don’t have to take hormones for the rest of their lives?
And if you think those questions were irrelevant, they were in direct response to yours.
The subject at hand is trans joining the military.
So if a trans person who has to take hormones for the rest of their lives, why should they be able to join if a person with clinical depression takes medication for it can’t?
You do know that I don’t have to be an endocrinologist to know what disqualifies you for the military?
You try again.
Man you’re fucking stupid as fuck. Many military service members are evaluated and are on meds.
Just shut the fuck up racist nazi traitor trans hating ass motherfucker.
I’ll see you on field when the revolution kicks off. All of the traitors must be ripped out of America.
Didja know that not all trans people take hormones? Also, they aren’t always in pill form - your comments so far seem to indicate that you have absolutely no idea how trans medical care works. T can even be in pellets which you take every few months.
People who are on medications can join the military. I imagine someone with medical qualifications in endocrinology would be the person to make that call.
The military allowed trans people under Obama and Biden with no issues.
Maybe don’t talk about issues you know nothing about?
I never said it was an issue. Like I said before, they’d have to be non deployable. I really don’t care. People can get waivers for some conditions, but not for asthma or depression, you seem to be skirting around the main issue here.
The trans who don’t take hormones won’t pass for their desired gender lol
You don’t even want to join the military. You know nothing about the military. The qualifications are a bit strict given the nature of the military.
I know more about military qualifications than you do.
My first speeding ticket was before I started testosterone. The officer wrote male. My drivers license still said female.
I do shots, once a week. Started every other week. No deleterious medical effects over the past ten or so years, barring some issues with high blood cell count, which is fairly easy to manage/eliminate. I do it myself - I’m shit at z-tracking but eh, must not be fucking it up too much. Just to give you a data point, because you seem ignorant about trans people in general and I’m glad to educate.
In a military context I can imagine it would be problematic to give oneself injections, but there are gels and the pellets. Estrogen is a pill, can also be injected. But the thing is, you can go without hormones and it’s survivable. Testosterone shortages have been a routine issue forever. It’s not like having to skip a week detranses you.
I’m not questioning your knowledge of the military - I am questioning your knowledge of medicine.
I’m not an expert on the trans subject, obviously. But I know it would be problematic in the military, especially in combat situations.
I don’t mean to come off as insensitive, but being a veteran, I have a different perception.
Sorry you live in a town where people don’t understand you.
Nation.
Not every role within the military is a combat role. I very much doubt that people with asthma or flat feet are barred working, for example, as analyst in military intelligence. And if the military does then the military should scrounge up some actual intelligence.
Military intelligence is an oxymoron, no such thing. I wouldn’t have a problem if trans or people with asthma join, they’d have to be non deployable and have a desk job or something similar