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    7 months ago

    DNC doesn’t need the help. They did this all by themselves.

    Hell, they’re still blaming progressives and chasing “centrists.”

    Archive photo of Chuck Schumer:

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        Why have you started with this crusade against progressives when they are plainly the only ones doing anything to fight back against fascism right now?

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            • David Hogg is funding primary challenges to Democratic incumbents who refuse to obstruct Trump’s fascist takeover.

            • AOC and Bernie Sanders are doing their Fight Oligarchy tour around the nation to raise support for progressive candidates.

            • Progressives all over the US like Kat Abughazaleh and Zohran Mamdani are running for local offices.

            • The Congressional Progressive Caucus are the only ones consistently voting against Trump’s and the Republicans’ cabinet appointees and blatantly unconstitutional bills.

            • AOC is regularly hosting virtual events to inform her constituents of their constitutional rights, something for which she is receiving threats of prosecution from the Trump admin.

            These are just the things I could think of off the top of my head, and while all this is happening establishment dems like Chuck Schumer and James Carville are actively fighting against the progressives instead of fighting fascism. If it seems like not much is getting done it’s because the neoliberal ghouls that have embedded themselves in DNC leadership positions are doing everything they can to force the entire party to “play dead.”

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              You keep making excuses for the small amount progressives have done while MAGA has taken over the GOP and used that to take over the House, the Senate, the SCOTUS and the presidency in the same time frame?

              They’re making the moves and it’s really showing how much of a joke the progressive movement is.

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                Replying to this again because I don’t think I addressed your main point. The reason MAGA was able to take over the GOP so easily while the progressives have struggled to take over the DNC is because MAGA had (and still has) the backing of several large donors and owners of mainstream media. The entire mainstream media apparatus has been outright hostile to progressives until very recently, and even now they are reluctant to give full support.

                The fact is that Progressives have a much harder fight than fascists because our ideas represent a tangible threat to the wealth and privilege of those in power while fascists’ ideas only threaten the powerless (at least at first, many of these wealthy people who are complicit in the rise of fascism will find themselves against the wall too eventually, but they are shortsighted).

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        You’re sure these are progressives? The group that have been trying to get their ideas enacted into law? Ideas like public education, healthcare, and liberty?

        Democrat “ideas” seem to be giving Hitler Sudetenland and hoping he will be appeased. I could do with fewer of those “ideas.”

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          … Are you serious?

          Democrats have been running on the ‘Are you fucking insane!?!?’ bandwagon for years, while progressives have been ‘meh, why bother to vote for genocide Joe, I’m sure they’re both the same’.

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            Lol, yes, that response from democrats to progressives who say our country is in crisis and needs bold change is why they’re losing

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            I swear to God. One day I’m gonna meet a “blue maga” democrat when we’re both in one of Trumps death camps and they’ll still be complaining about how leftist didn’t vote hard enough. Meanwhile they’ll have done nothing but say this same thing over and over again during the entire rise of fascism.

            THE DEMOCRATS FAILED TO GET THE VOTES. THAT IS A FAILURE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY NOT ANY VOTER BASE.

            Holy shit. It’s like people don’t understand how voting works. If there were a lot of people that thought “meh they are the same” then THATS A FAILURE OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY!

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              You are shrooming, I’m not white, I got my family out to Europe before this nightmare happened.

              I had 0 faith in the left to vote to stop the genocide of brown people at home, in favor of Russian trolls telling them they can’t vote blue or they support a genocide somewhere else.

              Morons fooled by ‘look over there!’

              But thankfully my family is safe, enjoy your camps, you will not be missed.

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                So you told people to vote Blue no matter who with the full knowledge that you had a privileged position of being able to literally move to another country. Cool. Thanks for your input.

                Calling a genocide “look over there”. Wow you’re about as gross of a person as I’d expect for your brain dead takes. Thanks for verifying it.

                You also didn’t reply to anything I said. You’re still trying to place collective blame in people making individual decisions to avoid placing blame on a literal political party who’s job is to educate people to get their vote. They failed. Simple as that.

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              More to the point, that rhetoric is in blatant bad faith.

              Liberals: “Vote blue no matter who!”

              Progressives: “Okay, let’s run some progressive candidates and y’all can vote for them with us.”

              Liberals: “No, not like that!”

              Except they can’t even be that honest; they’ll say “BuT PrOgReSsIvEs CaN’t WiN” without even the slightest hint of realization or self-reflection that the votes the progressive would be missing are theirs.

              Fuckin’ lying hypocrites, all of them.

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                To be fair, the last time the DNC got behind a progressive candidate for president, Nixon won like 48 states and it hasn’t really recovered since. It’s not hard to see why they are still in fear of that event. The issue seems to be the rotting shrubbery infesting politics from a lack of term limits.

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          The group that have been trying to get their ideas enacted into law?

          I’m glad you added the emphasis to trying so I didn’t have to.

          The only thing they’re missing are seats and votes.