The trial over an effort in Minnesota to keep former President Donald Trump off of the 2024 ballot began Thursday at the state Supreme Court as a similar case continued in Colorado.

The lawsuits in both states allege Trump should be barred from the 2024 ballot for his conduct leading up to the Jan. 6, 2021, riot at the U.S. Capitol. They argue Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election results violated Section 3 of the 14th Amendment to the Constitution, which says no one who has “engaged in insurrection or rebellion” after swearing an oath to support and defend the Constitution can hold office.

A group of Minnesota voters, represented by the election reform group Free Speech for People, sued in September to remove Trump from the state ballot under the 14th Amendment provision. The petitioners include former Minnesota Secretary of State Joan Growe and former state Supreme Court Justice Paul H. Anderson.

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    Who will win in a fight 400 annoying angry rednecks or one tank?

    Yeah that’s a tough one

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      Of course, everyone in the military is perfectly stable non-violent person with no extreme views and opinions.

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        Largely, they obey the chain of command. And for better or worse, the highest ranks of the military have shown to be downright level-headed on the topic of there never being a military coup in the US.

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        The senior officer corps is dominated by highly-competent and committed individuals who absolutely despise Trump for many very obvious reasons. He may have some popularity among the enlisted ranks, but they aren’t the people who know how the machinery operates on a macro scale. Real warfare requires coordination on a massive scale and nobody outside of the Pentagon is in any position to make that happen. Do you know how to command a carrier group or an infantry division? Do I? The only people who do are elite high-ranking officers.

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      In coventional warfare, the tank probably wins, but modern civil wars are asymmetrical. Just look at Syria and Myanmar, two countries that have tanks and fighter jets.

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        Yeah, but as long as you are looking at stuff take a gander at the gravy seals who use the 5XL size camo vest and who will give up as soon as they run out of cheetos.

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        It’s going to take a lot more than a homemade pipe bomb to get through the armour of a tank, assuming they don’t blow themselves up in the process of making it they would then have to actually get near the tank, which I don’t think they’d be able to do.

        Anyway most of them are delusional but they actually have lives back home They’re not going to risk their own life. January 6th was different because they essentially got no pushback, most of them just wandered around and yelled things they didn’t really contribute in any real way. The moment their lives are at risk I suspect their enthusiasm would rather evaporate.