• Rhaedas@kbin.social
    103·
    11 months ago

    It’s as much Star Trek as the unofficial Trek movie Galaxy Quest. Doesn’t matter if the characters and universe are different, it’s got the same vibe to fit in.

    • Shialac@lemmy.worldEnglish
      463·
      11 months ago

      The Orville has more Star Trek Vibe than most recent official shows

    • CeruleanRuin@lemmings.worldEnglish
      1228·
      11 months ago

      It’s literally just camp TNG with juvenile humor, mildly annoying characters, and low stakes.

        • Socsa@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
          14·
          11 months ago

          Honestly I kind of wanted them to keep more of the humorous tone. I know a lot of people hated it and thought it was distracting, but I thought it was a pretty unique take on the genre. I wish they’d toned it down without going full space opera.

        • EmergMemeHologram@startrek.websiteEnglish
          9·
          11 months ago

          It took me a while to get passed the early episodes, they were a little too “family guy” for me.

          But the show did get pretty good in season 2, and the humour got better (in my opinion).

          • supamanc@lemm.eeEnglish
            9·
            11 months ago

            I think the humour in the first few episodes was Mcfarlens way of sneaking the show past the network suits - he sold it as family guy meets star trek, then switched on them once it was established.

            • Taleya@aussie.zoneEnglish
              1·
              11 months ago

              Literally the case, the first couple eps were written for fartjock executives. Ep 4 onwards were written for the show. It’s why there’s a sudden stratospheric upswing

          • lugal@sopuli.xyzEnglish
            42·
            11 months ago

            The humor is the worst. All kidding aside, I wish you all the best.

    • Here4CatPics@lemmy.worldEnglish
      161·
      11 months ago

      When that second episode of the first season dropped I said the same thing to a friend that’s a die hard Star Trek fan. They weren’t enjoying the new Trek, yet, but wanted the thought provoking episodes now, action later/sprinkled in

        • SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish
          164·
          11 months ago

          Lower Decks is amazing. It’s up there with Futurama. It’s just damn good, even if you’re not a trek fan.

          • Pickle_Jr@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            101·
            11 months ago

            Lower Decks is the entire reason I’ve even begun my Star Trek adventure. I’d watch Trek occasionally whenever it was on TV, but now I’ve watched all of LD, DISC, SNW, TOS, the first 6 movies, 6 seasons of TNG, and 1 Season of ENT in like the past 2 months or so.

            • SupraMario@lemmy.worldEnglish
              21·
              11 months ago

              I’m actually doing the same thing, all because of LD. Wanting to know more about the lore.

    • CeruleanRuin@lemmings.worldEnglish
      82·
      11 months ago

      People keep saying this, so as someone who has only watched half of the first season, when does it get to this point?

      I mean it’s amusing enough, but it’s just a pastiche of cliches and obvious gags. People keep saying that it distills Trek down to its essence or something like that, but to me it seems like “watered down” would be more accurate.

      • lugal@sopuli.xyzEnglish
        141·
        11 months ago

        Having a bad first season is as Star Trek as you can get. All kidding aside, it gets better and more serious with time.

      • ramble81@lemm.eeEnglish
        9·
        11 months ago

        Just like TNG it starts picking up in the 2nd season and really hits its stride on the 3rd season. If you were to rewatch TNGs first season without the nostalgia goggles you’d consider it pretty campy too.

      • mostNONheinous@lemmy.worldEnglish
        7·
        11 months ago

        After the first season it begins to feel a bit less campy and the crude humor is toned down a bit and even more so I feel by the third season. The overall plot starts to show itself in season 2 and just gets better from there.

        • angrystego@lemmy.worldEnglish
          2·
          11 months ago

          I saw a different season 3 I guess. The humor was gone but the kind and progressive approach to problems that I like about Trek was kinda gone too.

    • i_love_FFT@lemmy.mlEnglish
      3·
      11 months ago

      It’s an alternate universe’s Star Trek. They just need some handwavium device to cross universe and they could make a crossover episode.

  • chuckleslord@lemmy.worldEnglish
    32·
    11 months ago

    The Orville literally made me give Star Trek an actual try. I think of it as my first series of Trek.

  • psycho_driver@lemmy.worldEnglish
    213·
    11 months ago

    Orville was such an aimless show in the beginning. Obviously it started out going for campy comedy parody but it honestly wasn’t hitting the mark on the comedy often enough. I’m stalled out somewhere in early Season 3–not because I wasn’t enjoying it, I think it’s actually gotten pretty good by that point, but just time and other commitments.

    • driving_crooner@lemmy.eco.brEnglish
      15·
      11 months ago

      I prefer the first seasons that they didn’t take the show too seriously. The last ones (or last one?) Was way too dense, with episodes way too long that got be bored at half episode every time.

        • Skunk@jlai.luEnglish
          51·
          11 months ago

          I agree as well. And I’ve had my best laugh while watching season one and being high.

          Because it was probably written while being high…

    • MrJameGumb@lemmy.worldEnglish
      121·
      11 months ago

      I had the opposite experience lol! I really liked the first season, season 2 started off pretty well, but I lost interest before I got to season 3. It felt like the later episodes were either too preachy, or too focused on trying to make the characters “cool” instead of funny. I just wasn’t enjoying it any more

      • Maven (famous)@lemmy.worldEnglish
        12·
        11 months ago

        My theory for the behind the scenes:

        McFarland: I would like to make a star trek parody!

        Fox: oh sounds awesome, lots of funny jokes and stuff. Should be funny.

        M: yes haha, funny.

        F: yes… Anyway here’s the money

        Making episode one

        M: I gotta make sure there’s loads of jokes so I can show this to execs and they see the haha bits

        Making episode 3

        M: okay I think they’re gone… Time to just literally make normal star trek episodes

        making the last episode of s1

        F: hey I see you’re almost done with the first season so I’m just checking in that the show is still funny

        M: quickly adding in as many jokes as the last second as possible haha yes humor! Jokes! Plenty of them! Haha yes

        • Taleya@aussie.zoneEnglish
          2·
          11 months ago

          Thing is it’s not the humour, it’s the humanity. Showing all the crew are just as dorky as your average human today, not all stick-wedged paragons like TNG. Think of the top time funniest moments - getting Bortus to eat a cactus, 500 cigarettes, karaoke, the moustache, the dancing bandito, isaac’s joke fail… the humour is there, but it’s the humanity that makes them. that’s where s3 kinda fell down a bit, i don’t know if it was covid rush or what, but we missed a lot of the warmer moments. Season finale delivered though.

  • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.caEnglish
    3·
    11 months ago

    I’m not sure the mods are going to care honestly. I think most are in agreement that the Orville is basically star trek adjacent, and close enough that… Honestly as long as it doesn’t take over, nobody will bat an eye at the occasional Orville meme.