DESCLAIMER: This will be a little bit of a long and maybe even a personal write up, if you do read it all, thank you in advance!
Hello everyone, not sure if anyone remembers much of what happened with my account u/TheArstaInventor on Reddit, In a nutshell, I was the guy who created initiatives like r/lemmymigration and r/kbinmigration, got banned unfairly for a while to be unbanned later after community backlash, I also created guides to help users move to Kbin, Lemmy or the fediverse in general, the one that took off the most was “The Redditor’s guide to how Kbin works”.
Later I also entered the r/RedditAlternatives mod team, and helped moderate the community further as its popularity grew a ton at the time and a massive increase in posts required a bigger mod team. I also coordinated with other mods at the time at r/ModCoord when the blackout happen and the whole coordination not only made blackout possible but a ton of communities made another home here on the Fediverse.
Although at first, I supported Lemmy massively, I moved to Kbin later instead after learning about some of the concerns surrounding Lemmy’s project developers at the time (them being tankies) but then over the months of using Kbin and investing a ton of my time on the project, I came to the harsh reality and conclusion that when it comes to platform maturity and stability, Kbin is years behind thanks to constant errors across the website sometimes, bugs and other instabilities, this also lead me to reconsider supporting and coming back to Lemmy, this time to Lemmy.world.
I also discussed with other people and came to the conclusion that the devs being tankies or their personal idealogies can’t and haven’t affected the overal project = Lemmy. Sure, there are some instances that cater to their idealogies such as Lemmygrad or even lemmy.ml but thanks to the project being open source and especially part of the fediverse, there are many other general instances, the best one being lemmy.world, that are moderated by entierly different people. The developers of Lemmy, who just help develop the platform, and their personal idealogies, especially on other instances, don’t and probably will never matter or be an issue.
There is also a major advantage of open source - keeping the original project in check with the threat of a fork project taking away users from the OG project, this itself will by fundamental design keep Lemmy from questionable changes in the future by Lemmy’s own developers. Apart from all this, the developers themselves following this concern released a statement stating their ideologies won’t affect the platform itself and even if it does, it is open source and is open to being forked.
This was more than enough for me to jump ship here now, I am personally a little bit exhausted after so much of work I put into Kbin at first, but there are too many issues and is certainly not ready for prime time which has lead me here, I kind of have to start from scratch here but one thing has made be extremely happy.
I don’t know if I was a reason for even single person to come here to Lemmy from Reddit, but what happened to my account earlier on showed that Reddit is actually a flaw, a fundamental design flaw that is closed source and centralized, this was the base to all the issues, not just Reddit’s recent API changes that surfaced, over the years. I don’t know if even that was a reason for atleast a single person to leave Reddit for Lemmy and the fediverse, but I am just happy that a ton of people are now on this site, leaving Reddit for good and I have immense satisfaction that I did atleast 0.1% contribution to it.
I also hope some of my guides and posts inspired and helped people give open source software a real try this time and it seems like a ton of people have settled in the fediverse, really makes me happy that we finally have a self-sustaining community outside Reddit, but not just outside Reddit, but in a FOSS platform.
Putting an end to my long write up above, I want to mention using this opportunity, that I’ve created c/ModCoord !modcoord@lemmy.world, not exactly the same r/ModCoord from Reddit, in-fact my vision is wider and bigger: A place for all moderators to coordinate, help each other. A place to help new users migrate and ask questions about perhaps moderating a new community created. But most importantly, helping Reddit moderators migrate not only themselves but their reddit communities to Lemmy. Apart from the community on Lemmy itself, I also plan on creating a discord server that will be linked to the c/ModCoord here. Right now there is about nothing there, but I will soon start working on it and you will start seeing a lot of progress moving forward there, so do consider subscribing and supporting our vision and future initatives there - especially if you are a moderator, even better if you are a reddit moderator like me moving here. We also plan on working on a wiki-like post on c/ModCoord with tons of resources to help with community discovery who have already moved from Reddit to lemmy and so on.
Today, I left r/RedditAlternatives Mod team, a great bunch of people who shared my vision but it is clear that those who were really committed to seeing Reddit’s downfall left already for alternatives, mainly Lemmy and the Fediverse, so did I, little point in staying there.
As a HUGE car enthusiast, I will be working on bringing car communities to Lemmy personally as well (give me a shout out if you are a car enthusiast!:), especially those I already mod on Reddit.
If you read all that, I really appreciate it and i’m terribly sorry if it was too long but hey, I gave you a desclaimer 😉 😂
Finally, Let’s create the next front page of the internet, even better this time.
Welcome, and keep up the good work. Good to see you here.
Even if you don’t like communists. Politics plays a big part in open source for many, and giving power to people and away from corporations. While we were all happy and content on reddit, those guys were grinding away to build something for people. It did not appear over night. To some extent it is what drives and motivates people. I understand you are not communist and don’t agree with the philosophy, but it’s worth at least respecting that it plays a part in how people operate and is a reason why they self-sacrifice the way they do.
I’m personally a socialist and don’t agree with tankies support of certain countries administrations (past and present), but share a similar view of the world in wanting power in the hands of people, not corporations. I think we need to go further to respect other people’s views, even if we do not agree with them. Shitting all over them (and the platform) based on their views while supporting the thing they build does feel somewhat disrespectful. It’s the same as religion in some ways. You can fundamentally disagree with a religion while conducting yourself in a respectful manner when around those that differ from your views.
Imagine saying “I didn’t want to use x because of the creators <insert religious view>, but later realised the religious view didn’t impose on my own, so I have given it another shot.”
I think we need to get to a world where we can be respectful of people having different views even if we do not agree with them and would be quite happy to deconstruct it in debate.
It’s one thing to be a communist, it’s an entirely different thing to make excuses for authoritarian communism. Tankies frequently ban and censor things they disagree with even when there are no broken rules which is the main issue I see.
Thanks to federation and open source software, this shouldn’t be an issue.
Agreed, my solution has just been to stop subscribing and posting to as many Lemmy.ml communities since that’s where I’ve run into issues.
It’s bad over there. Worldnews is a trash fire.
You’re not alone in this.
Who’s making excuses?
Do you want to give an example of where the developers banned or censored something? It sounds like you’re generalising.
I see you’re also posting from lemmy.world, despite the fact they defederated from Hexbear before it even federated. To be critical of censorship while using that instance is ironic. Either you stand against censorship, or you’re just using it as an excuse to bash something you dislike. lemm.ee is far from tankie, but approached it in a manner more conducive to what you believe…
Don’t get me wrong, there’s plenty of normal stuff and normal people on Lemmy.ml. I’ve had comments deleted as hate speech for stating Hamas and Iran are a part of the problem in the Middle East. I’ve had issues with how Lemmy.world has handled some of their federation decisions but I’ve also seen some pretty terrible things posted on both lemmygrad and hexbear so I can’t say I blame the admins. World also refederated with Dbzer0 which makes me think they are open to reassessing which I like. If things take a turn I’m not comfortable with, I will probably move instances.
I’m a Christian socialist and you’ll never find me locking arms with a tanky Communist. They’re so disrespectful of other people’s views they want to shoot people for having them.
Violence is a sin.
They’re so disrespectful of other people’s views they want to shoot people for having them.
We talking about Christians and homosexuals in parts of the world?
You don’t even detect the irony in your post.
That’s a tiny minority of Christians whereas it’s not a tiny minority of communist and tankies.
Furthermore it’s an aberration when it comes to how people believe Christianity should be practiced that it involves such violence towards homosexuals, whereas it’s the norm among communists.
Yeah the problem isn’t their belief system, it’s the fact that they will brigade people who ask the wrong question or make the wrong assertion. Not in a corrective way, or in a way of trying to convince/persuade, but in a “you’re a horrible racist genocidalist scar on humanity and should never have been born” kinda of way. It’s very strange.
Where did the devs do that, or are you generalising?
I never interacted with them. Someone said they weren’t voting for Biden because of Gaza and everyone got very very angry when I asked who they proposed as an alternative. Sadly nobody was willing to answer that, I’m just a horrible person for not knowing already.
Which was exactly the problem with Reddit. Like exactly to a t.
Well that was usually caused by the mods going authoritarian. Lemmmy.ml and lemmygrad are some examples of places on Lemmy that are just like that, but in genera, people are very chill around here.
Communists are inherently radical/extremist and radicals/extremists don’t care about other opinions and will actively suppress them.
I disagree in principle. There is a form of communism that works, though I don’t know what it is. Sadly, nothing in the way of what Marx predicted has happened yet. The people have never stepped up and taken control of the means of production, for instance. Rather, we get the extremists that you mention who really just substitute one elite for another rather than humanity as a whole deciding to throw off the yoke of capital oppression.
My point? There is a possibility out there of something genuine occurring. Most of humanity is far too selfish for it to happen now.
You’ve nailed it. I couldn’t have said it better.
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There’s nothing to respect about authoritarian communism. It’s an ideology that advocates literally shooting people for having dissenting opinions. For all the good things in the ideology (and there are many) that completely negates them. It turns it into a parody ideology, a clown ideology that can’t ever actually bring the good stuff inside the box to fruition. It’s a poison pill.
It’s a box full of your favorite snacks but when you open the lid there’s nerve gas on the latch. Can’t eat the snacks if you’re dead.
Communists are by default and especially the tanky variety, not respectful of people having different views. That’s why people don’t like them.
Quite condescending, too.
Legend 🤝
🤝 🫡
It’s good to have a dedicated user such as yourself on-board. We need more people like you, with the skills, resources, and time, to properly invest into the platform. Welcome 🫡
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Lemmy HATES Cars
Sure, but also:
Car enthusiasts 🤝 fuckcars
Do we have a Dragonsfuckingcars yet?
We also hate cops, yet
Hey, r/fuckcars is a thing on Reddit too, what we should focus on is bringing all kinds of people, lemmy can have both who love and hate cars just like Reddit, that’s the aim haha.
We really do, but besides than, more niche communities on Lemmy are always good.
Oh hey! I made the highest rated post on that sub for recommending alternatives a while back. Glad to see people are still having discussions there all things considered, I expected the sub to get nuked after I left Reddit. Welcome home! I should probably go back and update the post with some more modern info then…
Everyone treats the Lemmy devs like they’re secretly injecting communist code into the Lemmy infrastructure 🙄 unable to comprehend that it’s NOT JUST ONE ENTITY that controls Lemmy/the Fediverse.
Don’t like communist views but like the platform as a Reddit alternative?
GREAT, FIND AN INSTANCE YOU LIKE
FediTips and Stux were vehemently anti-Lemmy when the migration from Reddit started. Stux came around and started Geddit.Social, but FediTips is still promoting people away from Lemmy due to the devs political views, and treats them like their responsibility for human rights violations and crimes against humanity.
Like, c’mon man, get your head out of your assI came to the harsh reality and conclusion that when it comes to platform maturity and stability, Kbin is years behind thanks to constant errors across the website sometimes, bugs and other instabilities, this also lead me to reconsider supporting and coming back to Lemmy
I started running my own personal kbin instance in June and had to face that realization a few months in. I just recently (~2 weeks ago) took it down and started up a lemmy server instead. It’s something I should have done months ago because it requires an order of magnitude more resources to run kbin compared to lemmy. I guess it was too appealing to have both mastodon and lemmy in one place, but neither of those things worked well enough to be worth the trouble.
At any rate, your thread on reddit about kbin was one of the reasons I ventured out into the fediverse as well as one of the reasons I chose to run kbin over lemmy. Thanks for the time and effort you put into doing all that!
I’ve been here since that time, and I’m pretty sure your guide to the Fediverse was a huge help in understanding how the Fediverse works. Thank you very much for it.
Politics-wise, I still frankly see some frankly rather alarming takes on here, but that just makes me more committed to building this up to be a better place. I’m certainly glad to see another friend here as well!
Shame you didn’t come to lemm.ee, that’s where the real superstar dev/admin is. When the shit had hit the fan, he was front and centre helping other instances out - while his own instance was immune to the bugs/attacks before they even happened.
I would love it if /u/sunaurus@lemm.ee had the time to fork lemmy and make it truly great. Unfortunately he has a day job.
I was thinking something similar. It’s not good that everyone goes to lemmy.world. Keeping the fediverse diverse is important. Shitjustworks is a good instance too that has low blocks.
To be clear to others the server issues are due to problems with v0.19, lemm.ee was running great before then. I can only assume the reason it hasn’t affected lemmy.world as much is because lemm.ee was very efficient and lean. Now, /u/sunaurus is basically beefing up the hardware and databases to give us excess power.
Sucks that it will be down for a couple hours Saturday though, copying the entire database takes time.
Yep, that’s why we are still on 18.5
Welcome!
Thank you!
WELCOME!!!
(them being tankies)
I joined the ml instance, thinking that it would be good to be closer to the devs. Was not prepared for how angry people are over there and migrated to another instance pretty quickly.
How would you even tell that it was that instance that was the problem since the whole fediverse is interconnected?
Because you can see where users come from and also which instances host a sub. There might be fifty subs called “Politics” for instance and if you’re viewing all, you might have to be careful when entering a random post. You might need to adjust settings to make that visible to you if it’s not already.
give me a shout out if you are a car enthusiast!
I require a place that goes in depth on malaise era cars.
Edit: Also, not seeing the ModCoord over on kbin.social yet, but it should be at https://kbin.social/m/ModCoord@lemmy.world
Re-edit: I searched it up and subscribed, so it’s there now.
Glad to have ya!
I know I migrated to Lemmy when all that stuff was going on. I don’t know if I heard about you specifically, but it’s likely. I was the only active mod of /CTCD, and they removed me as a mod, claiming I refused to reopen my sub, when my sub was so dead that I forgot to add it to the blackout
Not much Courage content these days.