Our resources need to be nationalized anyways. Every mineral, every gas, every oil, every tree, all electricity production and transportation. It should all be nationalized and available at lower cost within Canada for transformation purposes, so for making petrol for vehicles, natural gas and electricity for homes and businesses, lumber for building and housing construction and furniture, minerals for manufacturing all kinds of products, etc. And everything we sell internationally should be sold at a regular price. This would stimulate the local manufacturing sector and make us more independent and allow us to receive revenue from trade which we can use to subsidize our businesses and finance our social services.

We could have tight control and regulation on these things to be held to the highest standards and lowest environmental impact.

Why? What was the cost of this? How does that hinder the budget or the economy in any way?

I’ve recently discovered Zorin OS and it’s a pretty awesome alternative to Mint IMO.

So you’re just going to round up every Albertan in the same group and treat them all the same regardless if they are progressives trying to fight to turn things around or not. Got it.

"Why do people keep categorizing these French people as french? I feel like it’s disrespectful. "

There’s a BIG difference between assuming someone is French because they speak French and assuming someone has a specific political view because they are from a geographical location. That’s a really poor example.

Anyway, do whatever you want. If you want to be a prejudicial bigot and automatically classify people based on your own generalized stereotypical view of them, don’t complain if people start criticizing you.

Yeah, but are you going to assume that just because someone is from a rura area that they’re automatically alt-right nazis? Or, alternatively, that because someone is from a metropolitan area that they’re not going to be bigoted assholes? Don’t you think this is a bit prejudicial? I think that’s what OP meant. At least that’s how I undertand it.

Like they pointed out, just because they’re Albertan, they’re immediately categorized into this alt-right conervative demographic. They also provided proof that there is a progressive movement in Alberta that’s protesting conservative ideologies.

Way to perpetuate the discrimination that OP was pointing out. Geez. 🙄

Québec: “Première fois?”

Because many (not all) of these things provide a revenue to the government. Especially with natural resource extraction and transformation which is something that can be traded. And having nationalized services may come at a cost, but the way this helps society provides a return on the investment in other ways like increased business, reduced downtime, better produtivity, etc. Just like free education provides training for jobs, or free medical services can provide preventative care to avoid people getting sick or hurt and preventing them from working, or a nationalized rail and train service that ensures the transportation of important resources either internally or internationally to the US, Mexico, etc, at a reasonable price that won’t hinder local businesses and ensure that foodstuff is also transported across the country to feed everyone and keep the cost of foods low.

The whole objective is not to generate profits for shareholders, but to have a functional society that can generate revenue that can be taxed and use that to pay for services that support society and ensure efficiency, uptime and growth.

A lot of the problems you are mentioning is because of government cuts. In Montréal, the STM is also facing budget problems leading to strikes and projects taking longer and becoming more costly over time. But that’s because the provincial gouvernent are a bunch of corrupt idiots with no ethics who are giving away are tax dollars to their business friends.

And as for Canada Post, the main ceo guy at Canada Post is also on the board of Purolator, a private courier company. He’s been accused of conflict of interest and probably trying to sabotage Canada Post for his own corporate profits.

So… yeah.

Look at the grocery business. They’re mostly local players. Loblaws, Metro, Sobeys, etc. They’re all gouging the fuck out of Canadians.

And as for public companies, good example is Air Canada. When it was a public crown company it was one of the best airlines there was until it was privatized. Now they’re cutting everywhere and overcharging on every detail, leading to pricy services and bad quality of service.

Another example is the hydro electric companies in Québec. Before the private companies were nationalized, they would avoid investing in their infrastructure, avoid expanding their network and avoid maintenance as much as possible leading to frequent black outs. As soon as it was nationalized it became the pride of Québec because they not only expanded all over the province, they upgraded their infrastructure and ensured everyone would have world class services at a low cost.

Bixi, the Rent-a-bike service was going bankrupt until the city of Montreal acquired it and now they’re expanding all over the globe.

So I don’t know where you got this idea that public companies or services at stagnant.

Oh ok that’s good!

I thin as soon as you let private companies into critical infrastructures, you run te risk of having abuses. Freight trains are critical for economic sovereingty. Even by having public rails but private train companies, you still run the risk of having a foreign company overcharging or simply stopping service during a trade, economic, or actual war. Same with transportation. It’s such an essential service to have in a geographically large country like Canada, it shouldn’t be left solely to private companies or risk geeting gouged.

And that’s just for rail, trains, transport, etc.

For internet, make the infrastructure public and let companies use it to sell services. That’s fine. But still offer a public alternative just in case.

As for cloud services, the government should definitely have its own cloud system, but it shouldn’t be for public use. I would never store my personal files and information on a government cloud. That would definitely be a huge privacy risk.

Zorin OS is Ubuntu based. I wonder if, like Mint, they prioritize apt and flatpaks over snaps when using apt.

Mouins… peut être.

Tk chu pas très optimiste.

Sérieux là, tout le monde se plaint de problèmes qui sont très évidents, mais personne n’est allé voter. C’était quoi au final? Genre dans les 30%? Voyons donc!

Ce qui a fait perdre projet Montréal par contre c’est leur politique sur les vidanges. C’est tout ce que les gens ont retenu. Ils ont oublié le beau progrès qu’on a fait sous Plante à cause de ça.

Vraiment déçu à plusieurs niveaux. Entre le taux de participation abysmal et la candidate gagnante, je ne sais pas ce qui est le pire.

Ah that’s a good explanation.

I started with Mandrake back in 2000 and used Red Hat at school. In 2004 Ubuntu was released and I adopted it for life. I switched from Ubuntu to Xubuntu to Ubuntu MATE to Kubuntu up to this day. It’s the best because of all the quality of life additions, the stability of the LTS releases, the amount of widespread documenation, and general size of the community of users. This makes it a lot more easier to use and get help to troubleshoot any problems. So far it’s been mostly a problem free and easy experience.

Until recently…

I just discovered Zorin OS and started messing around with it in a VM. I gotta say it’s of of the best, most polished Gnome desktop experiences I’ve had so far with their free core version. While I love KDE for it’s desktop experience being the closest to Windows there is, I usually find it has WAY too many customizations to a fault. Some people like this, but I find that the more you mess with configs, the more prone to problems it gets. I also find Gnome to be more well put together and well integrated. The fact the customization options are limited means I spend more time doing what I need to do than messing around with getting my desktop just right. I just hate the default Gnome destop and whatever paradigm they tried to make. That’s why I’ve stuck with Kubuntu for a while. But with Zorin, I think they found the sweet spot. This might be my next install and I might recommend it to anyone who wants to get into Linux over Mint.

Here we go again with Austerity.

Us millenials had “austerity measures” since two thousand fucking eight. What the fuck else do they want to cut? There’s nothing left!

God damn bean counters and corporatists have fucked up any chance this generation or the next will ever have at any sort of normal life or any form of progress. I’m this fucking close 🤏 to joining the communist party and starting an armed revolution. Fuck’s sake. I’m so fucking tired.