God I wish this dork would fuck off already, along with the rest of the AI bullshit currently making investors and other business-wankers the world over cum themselves dry. It’s fucking embarrassing.

Okay, so we can agree that the Bible has at least one passage that commands genocide, in that time, for those four groups? Not a gotcha, not a criticism of your faith, just a question about the content of the scripture.

Yes, I think slavery is bad even if the person in slavery is treated “well”. Those Leviticus passages are interesting. Who is the “you” addressed in them? What’s the meaning of “your brother” in the second - does that mean any person, or a specific “in-group” of people?

The Luke passage is nice! It seems, from just the passages I’ve shared and the passages you’ve shared, that the Bible acknowledges slavery as extant during the various periods it was written, and sits on the fence about it. Was there a passage about how much you should charge for a slave, and how you should beat them? I believe I’ve heard that somewhere, but can’t look it up right now.

Sure, slavery was generally accepted until very recently - so would you say the bible endorses slavery, or denounces it?

Right, it’s the Lord commanding people to wipe out those groups. Whether or not the command should be reflected in the current day, that passage was written. That passage contains the Lord commanding people to wipe out groups - would you agree, or disagree?

The first one is an instruction to the enslaved telling them to obey their masters, whether they’re kind or cruel.

1. Does that sound like the Bible says slaves should not be enslaved, should rise up and free themselves or be freed by others?

To your second point, the passage names Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, the Hivites, and the Jebusites. The bible actually refers to these groups separately, and collectively as the “nations” that are encountered by the Israelites. These groups do (generally) have distinct identities and practices.

2. The passage Deuteronomy 20:17 commands followers to “completely destroy” each of these groups. How does that not constitute any sort of genocide?

I am absolutely happy to be wrong, and I’m not intending to be hostile - I know these beliefs are deeply held and are personal, and I’m not attacking you for your faith. Just want to make that clear! 👍

Which bit?

Slavery: 1 Peter 2:18

Genocide: Deuteronomy 20:17

Obviously these are just little tasters, there’s definitely more in there :)

Honestly I feel bad for not enjoying it. I really do wish I could stand the energy that character interactions in that game give off but I just can’t. I had to mute the game several times, especially when Karlach was around.

The whole thing is just… Too much. And all the characters keep trying to fuck you, too?? It’s so uncomfortable, and very very “young adult fiction”.

I can tell the game was made with real passion, and I wish I could have enjoyed it more. I played like 60 hours I think and loved it until anybody opened their mouths 😂

No I get it, and that in particular is a good point, but the whole “you can’t criticise this until you’ve made something equivalent” is just nothing

I wasn’t making any comment about that.

Whoa. Enormous respect to Team Cherry for this. It’s so cool to see people not rinsing passionate fans! Well done 🤘

This kind of argument suuuuuucks. I can at least understand the other commenter being sceptical of games that are popular because marketers are sneaky like that (not that I agree with the person you’re replying to), but this “you can’t criticise unless you’ve developed a game” thing is no good

If you have a strong stomach for unbelievably cringeworthy theater kid energy but really fun gameplay, go for Baldurs Gate 3.

If you want to be upset during really fun gameplay, go for Clair Obscur.

Haha, why on earth would anybody pay so much actual, real money just to rent a remake? 😂 Gaming industry has totally lost its mind