- pinch your nose and try to breathe through it
- Count your fingers
- Check a clock
- Read text
- Ask how you got here.
- Ask where/what/why.
- Try to observe stillness.
- Stare at one item for way too long and watch it gain detail.
- Ask strangers impossible questions about your self.
- Close your eyes and see if you remember opening them.
- Check if text and numbers change or fail to stay tell a coherent idea.
- Do not disturb the second ones as it just wakes you up.
- Just confidently Harry Potter your ass though a wall, it will work if you convince yourself.
- Stare at your hand for too long, 5 is hard to keep track of.
- Look in a mirror and watch your brain short out a bit.
- Hit a light switch a few times, see if lights break reality.
Adding to this:
- Phones/computers never work correctly
Gosh, I have that recurring theme that I want/need to call 112 (European 911) but mistype every time… Three digits. But I will fail every time.
Trust me, you won’t fuck up if you ever need to.
How do I know? Have called multiple times.
Reading text works really well for me.
When you realise that you can choose the text before you read it, you’re on the road to lucid dreaming!
That first one is the only one that almost never fails me.
There’s only been 3 or 4 times out of hundreds where I was like, yep, that’s normal, and didn’t become lucid.
AI image generators seem to have trouble with fingers too. I wonder if there’s a connection.
If you are reading this you aren’t dreaming. It’s hard to read text in dreams because the part of your brain that handles text processing isn’t turned on.
Hard but not impossible. I’ve read reddit posts in my dreams back when I used to doomscroll. I remember the text being hard to read but readable sometimes, especially headlines.
I think what happens in those cases is that your brain is inventing the meaning of the text and making you think you are reading it. If you actually pay close attention to the text itself it should begin to fall apart.
Yeah that’s what it seems like. Almost gets pixelated and obscured, like using the pixelate tool in a photo editor.
Yeah, my brain pulled a fuck you on me. I tried to read something in a dream (as technique to attempt lucid dreaming). My brain constructed the dream to have that text written in non-Latin alphabet.
Carry a totem, like, say, a top.
One happens when you sleep. The other happens when you’re awake.
Slow down there, Jimmy Neutron. Can you use simpler terms?
You + bed = dream
You - bed = reality
Me scrolling in my bed right now: Guess I’m dreaming.
There are reality checks you can do;
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Flip a light switch. If the lights come on you’re probably awake but if something else happens you’re dreaming.
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Try to push your hand thru a wall. In dreams you can do this.
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Read a piece of text, look away and re-read it. In dreams the text changes.
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Try jumping really high. If it’s a dream you’ll jump much higher than anticipated or even start flying.
Keep in mind though that these tests needs to be done regularly and in a serious manner even when you think you’re awake or else the habit wont carry into the dream world. Tell yourself; if my hand hits the wall I’m awake and if it goes thru I’m sleeping. Then do the test and see what happens. Be aware though that your brain is really good at explaining why weird things happen in your dreams. For example I once performed the jumping test and I just took off and went like “holy fuck I’m dreaming” but then I looked back and saw a crane hook attached to my back and went like ahh ofcourse makes perfect sense, nothing weird about that.
I also want to include a slight warning here. If you do realize you’re dreaming and aren’t immediately waken up by this realization then one thing that’s generally not recommended to do in dreams is look into mirror. The reflection wont be you or the very least it’s not what you expected and this might be really uncomfortable experience. Also; realizing that you’re dreaming may make you anxious and cause your dream to turn into nightmare. You can in theory turn this nightmare back into normal dream by for example hugging the monster but this is easier said than done.
Happy lucid dreaming!
The jumping one is quite interesting to me. I used to have a period of lucid dreaming in my life and found that in my dreams I can jump off the ground and then jump again while mid air (kind of like a double jump in a video game). In reality this obviously doesn’t work because your feet have nothing to push against while in the air but somehow my dreams didn’t care about that.
Man some of y’all are fucked in the head and I hope it’s not the norm.
When I realize I’m dreaming, I don’t get anxious, I think it’s cool as fuck and I start flying around.
Let’s not even get started on why all the voices you hear are negative…
That’s a nice way to talk to complete strangers. Definitely makes you seem not fucked in the head at all.
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Meh, don’t worry about it… whatever environment you find yourself in, navigate it the best you can. Reality might be real to someone experiencing it, but it’s irrelevant to someone who isn’t.
My dreams usually end with disaster, my life is a continuing disaster that doesn’t seem to end
If you can think clearly then it’s not a dream. In a dream large parts of your brain are just off. So thinking is very hard.
However it’s very hard to remember that in a dream. So it’s easy to tell when you’re not in a dream, but hard to tell when you are.
I’m getting laid.
Do many people have trouble with that?
My dreams are all repetitive nonsense that doesn’t even have the quality of feeling like reality. During them I almost never think to wonder if it’s a dream, but if I do then either I wouldn’t be able to hold onto that as a coherent thought, or the dream would just end.
I’ve had a few cases where something made me remember something I experienced and I couldn’t immediately tell whether I was remembering something from a dream or reality.
Anecdotal, but I once dreamed an entire Wednesday. Got up went to work, a few hours in realised it was Wednesday all over again.
I suspect that one’s mind can differentiate a dream from reality because dreams are not a simulation, they are not internally consistent or even generally comprehensible, while reality is.
In the high stress times of college, on multiple occasions I dreamed my entire morning routine and walk to class, only to wake up and do it all again.
One time I dreamed the whole thing, “woke up” and did it again, but THAT one was also a dream, woke up for real and did it all again a 3rd time.
So many buses lost: I woke up and got in, only to realize that it was a dream 😂
That must have felt like some kind of ground hog day situation
Had the same shit happen to me in college too. College is one hell of a time…
It was in the midst of my 4000 level classes, maybe 3 hours of sleep for several days in a row, not eating right, all that shit will ruin your mind
I once was stuck in a loop… for an entire year. It felt like a year too and waking up was something that made me happy.
Read something. You won’t be able to get more than a few words in a dream. Doesn’t matter what it is: billboard, menu, homework, whatever. It’s one of the easier ways to tell if you’re dreaming.
I’ve also heard that if you read something, look away, look back and read it again, and it’s different, then you’re dreaming. You can practice this experiment when you’re awake; this will condition your brain to do that reflexively, and eventually you’ll do it in a dream.
One of the possible outcomes of this kind of dream-testing is lucid dreaming. When you’re dreaming, knowing you’re dreaming inside the dream can give you some semi-conscious control of the entire dream universe. Wanna fly? BAM you can fly. Enemies need smiting? SMITE. Done.
Now I’m wondering if the “real me” that, you know is actually real … doesn’t just entirely believe that I’m really real, but is really just a dream of the next level up. Same thing goes for the other direction, with innumerable layers to the onion. How could I possibly know?
fuck
And then wake up before you can do cool shit because you get way too excited about realizing you’re lucid dreaming.
Assuming you are talking about lucid dreaming, what you want is a “Dream Check”.
In dreams, large areas of your brain are operating in alternative states. This makes things like reading difficult or impossible. Unfortunately it also makes remembering to try reading just as hard.
What do carry over well are habits. You need to do something, while awake, that won’t do anything when awake, but will in a dream. If you do this habit when awake however, you will also do it in a dream. It working acts as a trigger, you become aware of the dream state.
My personal check is to reach into my back pocket for a bazooka, or other heavy weapon. I obviously never have one, and the action looks innocuous in real life. It also has the added advantage of being excellent for nightmares. Nothing ends a nightmare faster than turning to face whatever is chasing you, while dual wielding AK47s.
At that point, the trick is staying in the dream state. Too excited, and you wake up. Too relaxed, and you fall back into passive dreaming. It’s often best to roll with the dream, and only alter small things. This lets you direct it, but not shatter it.
Happy dreaming.
This makes things like reading difficult or impossible. Unfortunately it also makes remembering to try reading just as hard.
I must be weird, but I can read in my dreams (and tell time, etc.)
Do you happen to have a photographic memory?
The main issue, I believe, is that we don’t store memories of text well. We also don’t have a pre-built system to go from text memory to text image. The pipeline is 1 way. Writing uses a different pathway in the brain.
A photographic memory would let your mind bypass this, and pull up real memories to fill the page.
No. I do have aphantasia, but that’s the only thing that jumps out to me as weird (in this situation; I’m plenty weird in other ways).
Maybe because I don’t “see” images or have a mind’s eye in the same way other people describe it, things work a bit differently. I still do dream vividly and visually, at least so far as I can tell.
The “reaching for something” is something I’m gonna do. I’ve had so few lucid dreams, two or three, and they ended after I realized that I was dreaming… After trying to stabilize the dream I don’t know why but I kept doing “random and uncontrolled” stuff.
Do you also say something when reaching out for a weapon?
The trick is not to try and control the dream too strongly. The random and uncontrolled stuff is your brain’s white noise being interpreted. By stabilising it, you are waking yourself up. Instead, be gentle. Accept the dream for what it is, at least initially. With practice, you’ll learn to recognise when a change is about to happen, and inject your preferred interpretation/solution.
As for my dream check, it’s silent. Externally, it’s just me putting my hand in my back pocket for a second or so. A spoken method would work, but would really confuse people around you.
Stop wasting time on Lemmy and wake up
Have you read the zhuangzi? “How can I tell if I’m zhuangzi dreaming he’s a butterfly or a butterfly dreaming he’s zhuangzi?” is probably the most famous line from that text.
Personally, I think the story is encouraging the joy of not knowing, becoming comfortable in a world that lacks fundamental certainties even about yourself and reality.
If this question interests you, you might enjoy the full text - it’s public domain and there are plenty of recordings on youtube.
