• تحريرها كلها ممكن@lemmy.ml
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          The difference between your average liberal and a tankie is that liberals will openly say that there were no WMDs in Iraq and that the invasion was a mistake.

          But liberals will still fall in line and support the current war as they always do, only after the fact they reasses their position.

          Find a tankie that would ever actually criticize the CCP the same way.

          I didn’t know the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation were a tankie group. Does that mean all Muslims are tankies?

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            The Iraq War inspired mass protests immediately that set records in several American cities, but sure.

            You are correct though that the narrative has shifted with time. So I take it that this has also happened in China, such that someone could organize a protest on the Tiananmen anniversary, right?

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                I mean, yes, Bush lied to the American public. This is not particularly controversial.

                And given that the original point was the difference between the ability and willingness of liberals to criticize our own governments relative to tankies, Tiananmen is a perfectly relevant topic, though I’m hardly surprised that you’d clearly like to avoid it. And if randomly bringing up supposedly unrelated topics is something to avoid, might I ask why you brought up WMDs in Iraq in a thread about the Uyghers in the first place?

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                    This conversation is specifically about the Uyghur genocide conspiracy theory.

                    Weird, I thought it was about Iraq!

                    The fact that the Iraqi invasion was deeply controversial at the time, and this controversy was able to be loudly expressed, stands in very stark contrast to how controversial topics in China’s recent history can be discussed. This is the main point I’m trying to make. I see you follow the lead of the Chinese government by simply refusing to discuss it, and I understand that talking about things that challenge your world view can be uncomfortable, so I’ll do you a favor by allowing this conversation to end.

                    I would just point out, though, that if I had responded to your initial comment about WMDs in Iraq with “Nope, not doing it,” you’d probably call me a coward or something.

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                  might I ask why you brought up WMDs in Iraq in a thread about the Uyghers in the first place

                  Sir, this is a wendy’s (checks title) thread about the ongoing genocide that Israel is perpetrating in Gaza

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      This isn’t reddit. There’s no corporation here to censor anything that challenges western propaganda.

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      The biggest problem is the number likely being exaggerated.

      The real amount of Uyghurs in concentration camps is completely unknown but guestimated around 30.000 to 100.000.

      The 1 million number is by a single source called Radio Free Asia which does not offer any evidence.

      The American way to spread propaganda is to take something that is true, and then heavily exaggerate it without providing evidence for the most extreme claims.

      A good video on the Uyghur Genocide here