“Fought Russia in WWII” hmmm 🤔
I mean, there were others fighting the Russians, too.
Perhaps he was an Italian fascist instead
Could’ve been a Finn during Winter War or a Pole. Wasn’t though
If the guy was Finnish I’d high five the shit out of him
(Actually, even that gets dicey. WW2 was kind of a mess)
Winter War is easy and clean, Continuation War is fucked.
Can anybody explain to me what is up with Canada and a Nazi, I have been quite enjoying my rock for a couple of months.
The Canadian parlement did a standing ovation for a ukrainian solidier who was an ex nazi in WW2
Actually a current Nazi in WW2. It’s arguable if he’s an ex Nazi now
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Some guy in parliament grabbed a Ukrainian who fought the Russians in WWII to make a show for Zelensky visiting parliament, without stopping to consider who the Ukrainians that fought the Russians in WWII were.
Canada let the mask slip.
No
Absolutely fucking not. Waffen-SS members are war criminals not hapless stooges.
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That’s neither here nor there. The Canadian government’s complicity only implicates Canada and clears no one.
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Just as there are such things as political prisoners, there are such things as political pardons. Judicial my ass; it was political.
And just as before, whatever the politicians & pundits are raving is neither here nor there. The guy voluntarily joined the Waffen-SS Galicia Division.
Yeah he volunteered to to be solider, so what? Being a solider is not the same thing as being a war criminal and the burden of proof still applies. War is messy and it is entirely possible that this division committed atrocities that haven’t been proven but the mere possibility is not sufficient reason to label him a war criminal. You are de-meaning the term by doing so.
Either you have specific evidence to support your charge or realize you are participating in sensationalism.
He didn’t volunteer to join the regular army and be a regular soldier, he volunteered to be a Waffen-SS paramilitary Nazi soldier, which is quite another thing.
You are painting an overly simplified picture. Look up Günter Grass if you don’t believe me.
TLDR: He non forcefully signed up for the SS, although disagreeing with the Nazis. Later he became a nobel prize winning author and member of the famous Group 47. In his publications he tries to get people to think for themselves - not exactly nazi doctrine.
Nazi apologia. It doesn’t matter how many books he wrote or how good they were.
Here’s how I read it: His Nazi past wasn’t discovered until after receiving literary awards, which was embarrassing to the literati, so they tried to whitewash him.
Go and actually read about him! He was never proud of being an SS member, but never made a secret about it (hard to do as a POW of the Americans).
That smells like heey out of the 750.000 killing psychopaths, there were that one not absolutely bad person so let’s not judge them too hastily.
SS scum should rot in a damp prison cell for 1.000 years and then another 1.000.
Rotting away in a cell isnt harsh enough. Google what the us Soldiers found in Dachau after freeing the Camp. That shit is disgusting.
I know I know. Nothing is harsh enough.
If people only would read history books and actually think about what they read… Instead it seems, most people around here just take their education from inglorious bastards.
No.
We should judge the ones who are left with extreme prejudice and they should desperately be explaining themselves and proving that they actually sabotaged the SS and Nazi empire from within, if they are to regain any humanity.
We shouldn’t judge anyone with prejudice; that’s in the word. We must treat all people as humans; not doing that is a Nazi idea. We should treat signing up with the Nazis as evidence, and act accordingly to prevent Nazis from running around doing and saying Nazi things.
Extreme prejudice has a specific meaning which I doubt you meant. With prejudice also has specific legal meanings. Probably best to avoid this terminology.
Isn’t he being extradited now? TF he was doing, coming out hiding.
Poland only send out an unofficial request because of lack of evidence iirc.
Context for people not from Canada?
Someone in the govt got a old Ukranian dude to speak to the parlement, and they all applauded him for fighting Russia in WW2, forgetting that the people who faught Russia in WW2 were the Nazis.
They had accidentally invited a literal Nazi to speak, and applauded him for it.
Canadian here. Minor correction: he didn’t speak, but he was invited as a Ukrainian “hero” by the speaker of the house (a member of the sitting elected party). He was applauded - twice - for his “service”. Including by Ukrainian president zelensky.
The only ‘defense’ I can offer is that our prime minister had no input on the matter, and Hunka’s Nazi service came out after the fact. Canada does not support fascism or Nazism…
But it’s a bad look, no matter how you cut it…
The only ‘defense’ I can offer is that our prime minister had no input on the matter, and Hunka’s Nazi service came out after the fact.
Hunka granddaughter posted that he met Zelensky and Trudeau before.
the people who faught Russia in WW2 were the Nazis.
Not all of them though. Division of Poland and Winter War come to mind.
They said he was ukrainian who fought the Russians in ww2, that meant he fought as a nazi.
It wasn’t acidental btw. His own granddaughter posted that he met with Zelensky and Trudeau before. Also he lived in Canada for long, all of them were one short inquiry of getting to know who he is, and that’s why they have assistants etc. Sure, the western politicians have mostly shit for brains, but not one of 300 people even said “wait a minute”.
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This shouldn’t be surprising given:
https://www.jta.org/1997/06/05/global/canada-knowingly-admitted-ss-members-after-world-war-ii
One of the ways of getting into Canada during the postwar period “was by showing the SS tattoo,” Canadian historian Irving Abella told “60 Minutes” interviewer Mike Wallace. “This proved that you were an anti-Communist.”
The Canadian government hasn’t really changed. Some high up government officials are the children and grandchildren of Nazi war criminals: https://www.google.com/amp/s/ottawacitizen.com/news/national/defence-watch/chrystia-freelands-granddad-was-indeed-a-nazi-collaborator-so-much-for-russian-disinformation/wcm/11196169-fd23-4643-94b4-08039235c595/amp/
Liberals always side with fascists over communists/socialists when push comes to shove.
After Britain and France turned them down and did appeasement with the nazis
I’m sorry did you miss the part where that was Stalin actively bargaining with the Nazis to join the Axis in exchange for Turkey and Bulgaria?
Did you miss the part where France and England refused to join a defensive alliance with the USSR? And did appeasement with the nazis? And how denazification happened more in Eastern Europe than west Germany?
As a Canadian this is totally embarrassing but atleast we don’t consider him a national hero like some nazis in America…
Or consider Dictators as heros and gods like Russia, China, India and North Korea does.
Lmao.
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