• JackbyDev@programming.dev
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    Damn. If only there was a way to get protection against measles without having to get measles. Some sort of injection. That’d be useful.

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      also convinced govt of somoa to stop MEASLES VACCINATION, resulting in 86 children deaths. also drove his former wife to suicide.

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    “the vaccine is useful for some protection and for other people it wanes”

    Yeah and the measles makes some people immune and for some people they die.

    Edit: also, what kind of argument is that in the first place? “Yeah well sometimes it provably provides a positive benefit to people’s lives in a statistically significant way, and sometimes it’s neutral with no downsides???”

    • Test_Tickles@lemmy.world
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      The right has become such a weird ass death cult, and yet they still insist on calling themselves “right to life”.

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        I heard about him from a Behind the Bastards podcast a few years back. I knew he was a dumpster fire and was really surprised/not surprised he got a position.

        Surprised because he’s an idiot. Not surprised because it’s par for this administration.

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    The dems really need to appoint a shadow cabinet and hold press conferences with fact checks and useful advice about how to get vaccinated.

    I’m glad that I am science literate and live close to the canadian border.

  • A1kmm@lemmy.amxl.com
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    • Measles estimated case-fatality rate: 1.3%
    • Estimated US population: 346,715,067
    • Measles deaths if everyone in the US got measles: 4,507,295
    • Upper limit on estimated MMR vaccine caused anaphylaxis: 0.000066%
    • Anaphylaxis case-fatality rate: 0.3%
    • Estimated vaccine-caused fatality rate: 1.98 * 10^-7 %
    • Estimate vaccine-caused fatalities avoided by not vaccinating US population: 0.69
    • Net increase in fatalities from switching to measles natural immunity for everyone in the US: 4,507,294

    So it would only be better if he wants an extra 4.5 million Americans to die.

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      Measles also resets your immune system, making other illnesses deadly again.

      Back in the day you’d survive Smallpox, then get Measles, then get Smallpox again.

      These days, I guess it will be Covid and the Flu killing most people.

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        Beat me to it. People forget that that is one of the worst aspects of surviving measels. Your immune system is fucked. Meaning you will die from some disease you HAD immunity to previously. This is why measels was effectively a death sentence if you got it as an adult.

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        its more or less immunosuppression rather than resetting it, measles infect the dendritic cells which tells your t-cells to attack, so when those are destroyed your body cant react to new diseases, its also a form “acquired immunodeficiency”, your body still can fight, it just takes a lot longer, since b-cells takes a while to pump out enough antibodies.

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        I was about to say, the collapse of the hospital system under the burden of both measles and all the other reasons people will still need hospitals will multiply that percentage.

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      Well I was told that deporting people would solve the housing crisis. Since that isn’t working out killing 4.5 million Americans seems like their fallback position.

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    “Dont trust the medical institutions until you’re sick” is just the self-harm logical extension version of the plague of right-wing myopia of broke self-reliance americanism and detriment individualism. American culture is completely unsalvageable

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      Never fail to underestimate how much failures cause people to become more dug in than realize something is off.

      I remember in the early 2000s atheist sites would often pose questions about how believers could continue to believe when natural disasters and disease go rampant.

      The facts? Natural disasters, when they happen to believers, make them MORE entrenched in their beliefs and not less.