• Brainsploosh@lemmy.world
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    It’s to fund development of commercial grade space travel.

    It’s gonna be expensive at start, but as it’s economised, less dangerous, more accessible, demand picks up, more infrastructure, even more accessible and bam commercial air travel/EV/Cars only in space.

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        So bored rich people can piss away a shitload of cash to look at the unrelenting blackness of space for a few moments before coming back to earth and continuing their lives of wasteful excess in a vacuum of ignorance, duh

        While doing this they will emit the carbon dioxide equivalent of 395 transatlantic flights, or the c02 emissions equivalent of what 22-24 Americans output in an entire year from their average daily life. Meanwhile sabotaging an oil pipeline is called ecoterrorism but their behavior is called a fun experience. But that’s okay, katy perry had to see space! We don’t need those ice caps, really. Sorry your children will grow up in a post apocalyptic wasteland

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        Currently as a novelty attraction, you go for the experience. This was the same for the other exampled, and is the same for flying cars where they’re being tested.

        Even electricity was launched in much the same way.

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          To do what when you arrive at this novel location? Leave Edison’s electrocution of an elephant out of this.

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            Is your imagination really this limited?

            Building a proper space station as a jumping off point for further exploration of the solar system, asteroid mining, He3 mining on the moon. These are just the basic things that are envisioned/planned. All of which would require commercial space travel to be a thing. I’d much rather we extract that funding from taking a couple rich people for a joyride as opposed to getting governments to subsidize it.

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              If it is a benefit for everyone I would prefer the government subsidized the development of space travel by taxing those rich fucks instead of relying on their ‘good will’ to selfishly experience everything themselves.

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                I view space development as very, very, very nice to have, but not absolutely essential. I would prefer to tax the shit out of the wealthy to pay for essential things at home (such as health care), and let private equity fund the nice to haves like commercial space travel. The exception would be for science missions. I’d prefer for the government to continue funding pure research, so that knowledge doesn’t get gated behind pay walls.

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                  24 hours ago

                  GPS, solar power, and a shitload of science all benefited massively from space missions that used government funding through taxes. That is the approach that I am in favor of, not space tourism for rich fucks.

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      Bruh…

      You realize private planes are already a huge environmental hit, right?

      Do you have any idea how much worse it is so some rich asshat can go to space?

      Or that if they used it for “travel” it would still be much worse than private planes?

      Just for the ultra wealthy to save a few hours when covering over like 25% of the planet.

      You have put zero thought into this and it shows

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        All development is spending superflous resources at low efficiency.

        I agree it’s totally tone deaf in the climate crisis, I’m just saying it’s business as usual. Billionaires gonna billionaire until someone stops them.

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        So in your mind there can be no good that comes out of this?

        What about continually advancing the tech on a celebrities dollar so we can get people living on the moon and elsewhere eventually. What about the learned experiences from launches so we can eventually start sending up mining equipment for all the minerals in asteroids?

        Yes it sucks for the Earth. I wish it didn’t. But if celebrities keep going up to space for a short amount of time, there going to eventually want to stay there. And when in the hotel they’ll want to go to the moon, and so on and so on.

        I would love for this to be done through NASA or done do more good come come from it faster, but they literally stopped because public interest wasn’t high enough

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          What about continually advancing the tech on a celebrities dollar

          And those dollars being spent are destroying our planet even more than private planes…

          You’re acting like shooting a rocket almost to space is somehow making technology better, which is just completely baseless…

          It sounds like you heard about how money invested in NASA generates innovation and parents the government owns which does trickle down into consumer products.

          But you’re completely ignoring that even if these useless trips resulted in fucking any advances, a private corp will own all the parents and profit off any advancements.

          but they literally stopped because public interest wasn’t high enough

          Just completely ignorant of what you’re talking about

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            They definitely were getting their budgets cut left and right for a while, since not enough people cared about NASA and going to space. So much so that we couldn’t replace the shuttle program and were backing everything on Russian rockets.

            Since Space X and others have been sending more people to space, NASAs funding has only went up. Because public interest is back and wants us to do it here.

            So yeah, they had to stop sending up rockets cause public interest wasnt high enough.

            Also, any rocket going up provides data. So yeah, launching a rocket almost to space even 1 times provides a lot of feedback. You’re talking like almost to space is the goal. The goal will keep getting pushed further and further until its not just scientists living in space. And then when that happens the goal will get pushed even further.

            Plus, how many more people that wouldn’t be interested in space at all are going to at least be curious cause their favorite celebrity went? How many Katy Perry fans got to see their first rocket launch cause she went almost to space?

            You’re just thinking so small minded

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      Yup, this is the sad reality of the system we live in. If we want space travel, it has to receive funding, and we have to hope that billionaires really want that wank.

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        I know the chances of me going to space are slim to none at best

        I’ll still root for the advancements of space travel cause not everything is about me