• Owl@lemm.ee
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    Might as well only mark the most visited cities and capitals.

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    Obviously they also have to go to Eire and annoy the locals by claiming to be Irish and asking where the Blarney Stone is for a selfie.

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    Stop gatekeeping tourism. “Oh, if you don’t live in each city of each country for at least a week, are you even outside your home?” Who TF you think has money for that? People will choose what they want to see. If they stay in one or two cities, they haven’t seen enough. If they run through 10 countries in 12 days, it was only a shallow visit. Who can win? Fuck off with that bullshit.

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      Traveling [place] implies you’re seeing a large enough portion of it to be representative to all of [place]. That’s what this is making fun of. Nobody says ‘im travelling the US’ when theyre just going to NYC and Florida. At most they’d say they’re going TO the US. That’s just what those respective phrasings imply. The meme isn’t ripping on not travelling or not travelling everywhere.

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        I have never heard anyone say that they’re “travelling Europe” in my life. I don’t think this is a thing. I’ve heard people say “I’m going to [insert European country]” instead. I’ve heard people claim to backpack across Europe, though I don’t know where that usually entails.

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        Traveling [place] implies you’re seeing a large enough portion of it to be representative to all of [place].

        [citation needed]

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        I just said people will go to where they want to go. Did I fucking stutter?

        If they want to go to Paris instead of the just as romantic Prague, you don’t get a say in it. None of your business.

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            And people will start listening when said opinions pays their mortgage. Until then “lol, no” will be your answer.

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        people don’t get to do many overseas vacations. Makes sense they would want to go to the best countries first? Yes every country is unique beautiful and people are interesting and if someone can afford to keep exploring, it’s endless delight. but Italy, France, Spain are not deemed the best for no reason. It’s because they genuinely are

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          idk i think “best” is doing rather a lot of work here. smaller countries can be quite interesting and hospitable as well. i quite enjoyed my time in finland personally

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            i emphasized several times that other countries can also be interesting and enjoyable and terrific. Does not mean one is not much better. You might choose to go to Finland if you’ve already visited Italy but, again, not everyone can afford multiple trips, even over the course of their lifetime. And when you can only choose one, you don’t start with niche. Very few people would pass on visiting many different places, it’s just that most people don’t have that option

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              I haven’t visited Italy tho and do not plan to. or Spain or France. Finalnd is as real a country as any other and not “niche”

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    No different than European tourists “traveling the US” visiting a couple of big cities and maybe the Grand Canyon on a stop in between.

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      Agreed from New Jersey. I was fortunate enough to go with a friend whose family is all from Portugal, in Furadurao or however it’s spelled, I dunno. But did Lisboa, Porto, stopped at the home of the oldest brothers in Portugal (at the time). Was fed much portwine at every home we stopped at, and ate bread with melted cheese in it that I’ve been chasing for the last 15 years since we were there.

      I’m fortunate to be from Jersey for many reasons, but one of them is the huge Portuguese population we have and the cooking they brought with them.

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    People rip on Americans like this because they don’t know we get 10 days off a year and have to pay $20,000 for the ambulance.

    This is the only type of Euro Trip we can afford to take.

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      Strange, because eastern Europe is a lot cheaper to travel than France, Italy or the UK. Those are some of the most expensive countries actually.

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        Flying there from the US is more expensive and Americans generally don’t want to see Eastern Europe.

        More cost, less benefit.

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    For a more accurate map, erase everything south of Rome, including Sicily, as well as Corsica and Sardinia. At the northern end of things, probably also Ireland and Scotland.
    Then make four new tiny islands and name them Barcelona, Munich, Amsterdam and Prague.

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      Keep Tuscany, Rome, Milan, Naples and Venice and you are done for Italy.

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      I also don’t get why it only includes NI and not Eire. Don’t most Americans go to Dublin, Cork, Galway, Waterford, Limerick?

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        I think NI is included as part of the UK and, if we’re being honest, it’s rare that they visit anything more than an hour from London or Edinburgh so having most of the rest of the UK is push too.

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    I’m sure that’s true for many people. When European tourists visit the US, however, how many are actually going deep into the interior of the US? Most tourists, I’d imagine, would be staying somewhat near one of the coasts and mainly sticking to the major cities. I doubt many Europeans have anywhere in Nebraska on their itineraries. Probably not a ton of European tourists in the US right now anyway, but I mean in the recent past at times of relative political normalcy.

    It makes sense, though. Most people who are travelling don’t have the time or money to spend months seeing all the highlights of a place as large as Europe or the US. Even just these countries offer a ton to see, whether its the cities or the countryside. I can’t speak for how well-traveled Europeans are, but very few people in the US, even those who have lived long lives here, are able to say they’ve even visited every state, let alone seen the whole country. I bet that’s probably true of Europe for Europeans, too.

    I myself don’t have much money for travelling, so I’ve only been to 11 states (and never even left the country), and I certainly did not see everything those states had to offer. Some states are often called “fly-over” states and, frankly, aren’t usually considered worthwhile places to visit anyway (even by Americans), so you can be forgiven for skipping those. I’m sure Europe has its equivalents, too.

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      I’ve been to many small places around Kansas, Missouri, South Dakota etc (that middle part full of nothing), voluntarily. Trying to do a road trip “Supernatural style” (the TV show, with burgers but without the monsters). I really liked that but I wanted to see real normal America, not the bells and whistles TV front.

      Not to be rude but your huge cities (mostly NY and LA) sucks as a European. It’s not even the lack of public transport, it’s just that they are way too huge. Paris, London, Madrid, Warsaw etc are big, but not THAT big.

      My plan for the next trip was to do rural Texas, I wanted to see real rednecks with my own eyes.

      But… That was before the fire nation attacked. Now I’m staying in Europe, plenty of things to see here.

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        As someone who grew up in Texas, if you plan on visiting to see real Texas(sometime in the future of course) then I’d say come for the tex-mex food. Austin and surrounding areas would be good to visit.

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        how did you like the fourteenth strip mall? wasn’t it cool how everything, like the entire country’s culture, was like a giant shopping mall?

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        I’m surprised your main gripe with places like LA or NY are that they’re too big and sprawling and not that they’re dirty and full of unseemly things like homelessness and drug use (though I feel those issues are blown out of proportion by the culture war and deserve actual help). That’s par for the course for many big cities, though.

        I’d agree that most large cities have the same problem with travelling any large area in that you could live there for years and still not see everything. Any big city will have cool places to check out, but you’ll definitely get an authentic USA experience visiting places like the ones you’ve been: blue-collar workers enjoying a beer after their shift at the local dive bar; small town events and celebrations; regional gatherings like rodeos, etc.; tiny, greasy, 50-year-old eateries with the best burgers or BBQ around, etc. Simple living. It’s not all so romantic, though. There’s a fair amount of poverty in those parts of the country and substance-abuse is quite common in some parts, too. People tend to be very friendly, though, which isn’t always the case in larger cities.

        Appalachia ought to be on your list for seeing rednecks as well. It has the same problems, but also many of the same kinds of draws. It also has a lot of natural beauty. Totally different kind of redneck. Another kind still, are the bayou rednecks.

        Can’t blame you for wanting to stay away at this point, though.

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          I’m surprised your main gripe with places like LA or NY are that they’re too big and sprawling and not that they’re dirty and full of unseemly things like homelessness and drug use

          Oh it is as well but I was trying to be somewhat positive.

          I think my real main gripe with LA is the immense social fracture between rich and poor. You can see an homeless man with his feet turned black for not having shoes and right next to him a fucker trying to impress girls with his Lamborghini.

          Getting to the country side to see normal life and normal people was exactly my goal, just getting to a bar in a small town and making friends because of my obvious French accent. I was there for the social part and the nature sighting (and it was very nice!)

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      The US is not a continent though. You can say, you went to Italy and France. No one expects you to specify the states and say “I went to Lazio, Tuscany, Lombardy and Rhône-Alpes”.

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        Yeah, but in the same sense that when one says they’ve “travelled” the US, chances are they’ve only actually seen a small portion of the country, just like it’s a little dubious when US tourists claim to have “travelled” Europe and only actually seen a small portion of the continent. The contiguous US is only a little bigger than Europe, most US states rival European countries in terms of size, and many European countries have administrative regions (using whatever term they prefer) that are also roughly the size of many US state counties, so I feel it’s actually a pretty apt comparison all the way down. San Bernardino County, CA, for example, is about the size of Tuscany.

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        You need to read the replies. The Dutch in particular are apparently very annoyed that people do this and only visit Amsterdam or Copenhagen. There are quite a few others in here as well. People just looking for a reason to shit on others is all that’s happening in here.

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          I would like to interject, the Dutch aren’t Danish…Copenhagen is a city in Denmark…

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      But calling Spain, the Netherlands, Switzerland, Belgium etc. the equivalent of Nebraska is just wrong.

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        Of course, and that’s not what I had in mind, either. All of those places are most certainly worth making trips to. I’m just assuming there are some countries even most Europeans don’t bother visiting. Maybe Moldova (sorry Moldovans)? Again, I don’t really know, though.