• DandomRude@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Apart from all the absurd stuff MS does with user data, I simply cannot understand why people use Teams - it’s a terrible app for video calls.

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      We use it at work because it’s intergrated into Office. I suspect that’s why most people use it.

      Typical Microsoft tactic for domination - bundle it in, integrate it and then people won’t try other stuff. Anti-trust / Anti-monopolies laws used to be used to fine and stop this, but now they can do whatever they want.

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        Yes, that’s clear, but I think Teams is still terrible even in this situation. I really can’t imagine a use case where this app would be a good choice - even if everyone uses Office. What are the advantages? What are people doing that couldn’t be done with any other solution? I realize that it’s probably mainly because employees are set in their ways, but is there really an objective reason why it has to be Teams? And as I said, I mean that even if you ignore the data protection nightmare that this application is.

        Edit: Sorry, I probably misread that. I assume you use Teams because every employee has an MS365 subscription anyway. That seems like a waste of money to me tho, because every Office app can be replaced with a free open source app – except perhaps in the few cases of Excel power users. But that’s just my opinion – in corporate practice, things look very different.

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        Yes, I’ve also experienced this several times. However, I still don’t understand what the problem is with contacting customers who use Teams via some other solution. I can only explain it with ignorance that borders on incompetence.

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          They won’t answer.

          I set up meetings through Zoom and BBB before where you can join without an account and through a web interface. Usually, the answer was: „Sorry, we’re using Teams, please set up a Teams call or we won’t be able to have the meeting.“
          Any attempt to explain was just waisted energy.

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            Yeah, I’ve been there too – it’s really sad that people are so incredibly incompetent – I had this happen to me even with an advertising agency that makes millions in sales, where we were the client. It’s really unbelievable. These are all highly paid people and they have no idea what they’re doing. Really just empty talk and not the slightest bit of substance behind it.

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    As always: too late and too little. Better than nothing, though (and “nothing” was [and still is] quite expected)…

    It should be “We’re done with Microsoft” as the very least.

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      Microsoft has been embedded in most enterprises and governments since the 90’s.

      Though it should be a top priority of every government on earth, replacing it completely with FOSS would likely be a multi-decade IT project (to do it properly, instead of doomed-to-fail attempts).