cross-posted from: https://discuss.tchncs.de/post/45277582
Opening my weather app this morning I was greeted by this warning:
Google has announced that, starting in 2026/2027, all apps on certified Android devices will require the developer to submit personal identity details directly to Google. Since the developers of this app do not agree to this requirement, this app will no longer work on certified Android devices after that time.
It’s the first time I hear about this, seems to be about:
Cirrus app: Github
Was this a big thing I somehow missed? I hope more devs will follow suit.
Seems to me like there’s about to be one hell of a market for phones that you can run alternative operating systems.
Except the economics for it are trash. Google uses Android as a loss leader to make money on Google’s services.
I think fairphone is doing ok. Kind of expensive
Damn the economics. The only people who care about “cheaper phone” are those who don’t care about other things
A shitton of people have lived economic realities that don’t allow them to splurge on a phone at all, even if they’d really like digital freedom or privacy. See: half of the global smartphone market, where Android Go and KaiOS enabling cheap smartphones lead to millions of sales.
People who can and want to don’t even make the jump because the reality of owning a non-iOS/Android phone is that it requires sacrifices. I went to a concert last night that required me to have the Ticketmaster app to even get in. Everyone at that concert had to have either an iOS or Android phone, myself included. I’m testing Ubuntu Touch on a second phone, but if I make it my daily driver, I’m going to have to keep a second phone around for stuff like that. Ecosystems are too locked down now, and unfortunately you will have to either miss out on some things, or adapt hard-core.
The devices and software have to be there. Right now there are only a handful of truly modern devices thar you can load Ubuntu Touch or another Linux distro on, and they’re… not quite straightforward for non-techy people to get up and running. Which is, believe it or not, the vast majority of users.
2025 being the year of the alternative smartphone OS seems just about as likely as any other year being the year of the Linux desktop.
I am going to refute you over here.
I can’t seem afford a Linux phone (or any mobile device really), simply because they tend to be made by labour in high-pay countries, while I am in a low pay country (which means I am not paid as much either).
And then I can’t afford to try any possibly existing Linux ROMs on my phone, because I can’t afford to brick it at all.
Unfortunately, I think the vast majority who care are already using one. However, with Google device tree and other shenanigans on Pixel devices, it probably makes substantial room within the niche market for the likes of Fairphone and Shiftphone to get into new regions.
On the other hand, mandates for major operating systems to report illegal activity that are in the pipeline could have a larger effect.
I dunno, I’m talking out my ass.
If I didnt have to pay 2x - 3x the price for a fairphone in the US I would’ve already switched. Unfortunately, $1k for a device with USB 2.0 is really not worth it for me or anyone else I know.
Going for a used FP4 should address both those concerns!
Thr cheapest one I can find is $600, for a phone that is 4 years old. I would prefer not to do that.
Reasonable, I suppose, although age really shouldn’t matter that much if the hardware features are sufficient and you’re running your own OS.
The low-end models around here have become cheap enough that I’m considering a second one as a testing environment/travel phone/untrusted device 😅