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      Or perhaps, I can’t toggle my AC because I forgot to pay my subscription fee.

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      You joke, but I literally came across this. I HATE that I had to connect my window unit to the net, but we have a lot of brownouts in the area, and it allows me to restart the AC if I’m away, or else my pups would cook during the summer if it didn’t turn on. The AWS outage hit, and I couldn’t log in to the app that controls it to turn it on. Luckily, it’s not peak summer and it didn’t get too warm by the time I got home.

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        If the brownouts don’t last long, you could maybe solve this issue with a moderately priced UPS to keep the AC unit from powering off during the brief moments when power goes out.

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          I’d have to spend more on the ups than the ac unit. Sometimes it’s brown outs, sometimes full blackouts. As much as I hate connecting it to the web, it’s free vs at least a couple hundred for a high enough wattage ups to run more than a minute.

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        There exist air conditioners with power outage recovery, and they’ve been around for decades. It’s usually labelled “automatic restart” on the spec sheet. This was already a solved problem before the Internet Of Shitty Things, and it seems that in your case some rat bastard went around and deliberately unsolved it.

        Whoever that person is, we need to find him and give him a smart kick up the rear.

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        Amazon Web Services, are huge data centers that many companies rent to run their services.

        The other day one of those AWS data centers had issues and temporarly went down so many services didn’t work, also because of this many heated beds stopped working properly and over-heated.

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          Plus the Ring doorbell, plus probably lots of people got locked out because of smart locks.

          It’s sad to see how easily people are fooled to depend on huge greedy corporations.

          To me it seems insanse that a server crashes somewhere and the door lock or door bell doesn’t work.

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      Having auto climate with physical controls is peak. No adjusting dials, your car just gets the internal climate to the temperature you want and that’s it.

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    I almost agree with this, but I prefer just one more advancement over this: the thermostat kind. I like to just set the temperature so I don’t have to keep adjusting it.

    Nothing fancy, no touchscreen bs, just simple knobs. I was perfectly happy with the thermostat feature in my old 1997 Pontiac Grand Prix GT.

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      My new car is a 2025 model, but it’s an Indian made Japanese Kei car so the interior is super basic. and it has large, infinitely spinning knobs for temperature and fan strength, and a digital temperature readout. I really like them.

      When the temp was cold in the morning but now it’s hot, I spin those dials like wheel of fortune to the left and immediately set the AC to cold and fast. No repeated button presses.

      The only downside is that it doesn’t have one of those knobs for music volume.

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        Not only do those knobs sound awesome to use, but I could see them being cheaper and more reliable as well.

        Instead of being mechanically connected to whatever custom parts to direct air flow, it can just be an off the shelf encoder sending a signal to a processor that already exists.

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        I somewhat regularly drive 9+ hours and split controls are not really comparable to just pointing the vents. If I am the driver, I need cool air blowing at me to keep me awake and alert. No longer having to compromise with passengers has been a pretty big improvement for a drive that long.

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        While I’m eating sushi, snapchatting, and flipping off that jerk that cut me off?? That sounds dangerous.

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        Till one of the 3 in vent temp sensors fails and my AC won’t turn on until its replaced but you have to remove the entire dash to access it so it would cost $1500 to change a $20 sensor

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      3 zone a/c is also pretty nice. No more “it’s too <exact opposite of what the driver is feeling>” whining from the back.

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    My dacia spring has it exactly like that 😁

    You feel how you physically move the airways by rotating the wheel where you choose the air coming out

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    This should be mandatory by law. Touch screens should not exist in cars for drivers.

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    Hard disagree with this. Climate control has become a must for me since the early 2000s. Set and forget is always better than fiddling with things. And now my current car has three levels of automatic so it doesn’t go full blast at the beginning, it’s amazing.

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      Automatic AC is good. Having an accident while looking at which part of the touchscreen the finger has to press is straight retarded engineering.

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        So, even better argument for auto climate control. Set it once when you first get in your car and are still parked, then leave it. However, yes buttons please. If this meme is about buttons vs touch screen, then I strongly agree with the meme. My vehicle not only has the auto climate, but also it is using buttons. They’re stupid capacitive touch buttons that Hyundai has since switched back away from, but at least they’re always in the same spot and I don’t have to change any screens to access them.

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        My car still has tactile buttons and it’s a 2018 model. The reason big touchscreens that do everything are becoming more and more usual is because the people want it

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      I wish my wife understood how that worked. She always gets in, and since the engine hasn’t warmed up yet, the heat doesn’t come on, so she cranks it up to 30C.

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        My wife’s car is like that, you set it to 72 and it’ll blast really hot air or really cold air depending on the outside temperature vs inside. I wish it just blasted 72 degree air. I just always use it in manual mode now so its not constantly switching.

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        Yeah, my gf does something similar, but opposite. She doesn’t like it going full blast so she turns down the fan which turns off the auto. I think if she had the version I did she would actually use it correctly.

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    I’ve got an old car and it’s still like this. I don’t look forward to the day I have to get a new car.

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      Yeah like, all I wish my car had was Bluetooth capabilities but besides that I love my older car.

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        Swap the radio its pretty easy and only costs like $50. I got an old Japanese import that has Bluetooth that connects to my phone as I enter the car. Its also got USB to play music from and charge from.

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          Good call, I definitely had the thought but never pulled the trigger on it because I never found a specific replacement that I liked. I’ll have to look into it again when I can afford it!

          I was considering upgrading to something with a screen and maybe gps, but couldn’t lock a model down.

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      We had to buy a new (used 2022) car after we ran out old car into the ground. The touch screen controls temperatures. There wasn’t a single variant of the car that didn’t have a giant ass touch screen. It makes me really uncomfortable when the screen no longer works.

      There’s also some other things that piss me off.

      But Some of the pros (and why we accepted that trade off):

      • all wheel drive
      • fancy sensors when someone is in my blindside
      • it opens when it senses the key is nearby.
      • heated seats with controls. (Used to bring hot packs because it gets cold here)
      • cameras for the rear
      • it does that cool thing where it breaks if it senses you might collide. I hated it at first but I’m old now and it saved me once from collision.

      Either way, fuck cars and if public transportation was better here, id use that.

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        I would be really uncomfortable with a car where I had to touch a giant’s ass to make it go.

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    I disagree. I like that I can set my temperature to an exact number and the car will automatically adjust to that temp. We should have stopped there. No need for touch screens. That’s was the holy grail of temperature control.

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      I’d add being able to set a different temperature for the driver and passenger. It’s a godsend for relationships.

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        Some cars even have a separate zone for the rear. However I’ve only seen that on touch screen models, so they can suck a dick.

        I had great fun with it in the back, though. They couldn’t see my temp on the touch screen at the front, just that the zones had been split, and I managed to get the two in the front to bicker because the driver thought the front passenger had split them XD

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          My parents car has that and no touch screens. But there was something goofy about it that made it not work very well. Like the driver had to enable it every time or something.

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    This works well and it’s not a hill I’ll defend but automatic control of temperature is better when it’s done well. In the UK we have a culture of driving cars with manual transmission and I’ve never understood it when automatic transmissions exist and are pretty good. People wanna feel like they are in control of stuff.

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      Not sure about the UK, but I know Germany likes manuals because they last longer when you have a lot of hills and mountains.

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      Well, as a kid I thought by the time I’ll do my driver’s license there will be no more manual transmissions around.

      Turns out, automatic is just still way more expensive to buy AND, as I recently learned, crazy expensive in maintenance.

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        It’s about 5-10% more in the UK. The maintenance on a reliable transmission is fairly minimal but any mechanical problems are almost guaranteed to be a nightmare buried under a mountain of metal. I’ve been spared that trauma so far but I remember test driving a used VW Passat which clunked with every shift. Thanks for the test drive, bro.

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    So long as the vents have analog dials that manipulate how much air is coming out. Otherwise I’d have to be pro left/right temperature difference. When it’s 100 degrees out side and someone says the AC is to cold it blows my mind

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          He should have said so! He may as well measure distance in bananas or area in stadiums 😂

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            Celsius is near useless as well, you can’t use it for anything without converting it to kelvins first. Both F and C are “because we use it and it’s familiar”. 100 degrees we should have said your blood is already frozen! Turn the heat on

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              Celsius is near useless

              Found a USian 🤦

              “In metric, one milliliter of water occupies one cubic centimeter, weighs one gram, and requires one calorie of energy to heat up by one degree centigrade—which is 1 percent of the difference between its freezing point and its boiling point. An amount of hydrogen weighing the same amount has exactly one mole of atoms in it. Whereas in the American system, the answer to ‘How much energy does it take to boil a room-temperature gallon of water?’ is ‘Go fuck yourself,’ because you can’t directly relate any of those quantities.”

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      There is such a thing as the AC being to cold. When I turn it all the way down in my car it’s like being inside a freezer. It legitimately starts to hurt where it blows on your skin after a while. Same with the heat though, it gets so hot that you burn yourself if you touch the vents.

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        I miss my old car where the engine was so small it got up to temp in minutes even in -30 and the airflow was so direct it felt like it was burning your hands if you aimed it right at the steering wheel

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          Yeah, I’ve got a 2.3L engine and the heater gets warm by the time I leave the driveway. Strangely enough the 1.2L engine in my moms car takes forever.

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            huh. the 1.4L in my old car is what I was referring to

            my current 2.5L takes forever in comparison, so did my last 2.0L (Mazda3)

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        You know you can adjustt the temperature AND air flow, right? You can blast the air to accelerate to the desired temperature and then dial back on the air flow and temperature to keep the car actually pleasent. I only say this because i have a friend who cranks the heat full blast in the winter and then rolls down his windows while still max blasting the heating! Dude has serious brain worms.

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          you don’t do that?

          having the window down in the winter for the fresh cool air over your face and chest while blowing heat on your feet and hands feels great

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            I live in Northern Ohio 40 minutes from Lake Erie. We have COLD winters here with wet air. Plus, my shitty soft top VW Bug with a busted window lets in more than enough cold air

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              Iol I’m in Ontario, similar weather. I still love the feeling of the cold air on my face. but tbf I get stuffy in cars if there isn’t fresh air coming in

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          I know someone who does this as well, mostly because he always drives with his arm hanging out the window lmfao

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      Lol, yes, automatic vents are only beginning to get good (and are far from prefect).

      For me it’s def not something you set only once. Witch is a fail by default.

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    Wrong. This has no ads. How will I become a tech billionaire if I can’t disable your breaks until you watch my ad?

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      To: Driver@Car.com

      Subject: Major Alert Notification

      Dear <INSERT NAME HERE>, It has come to our attention via our sophisticated proprietary carAI system that you and your friend (Brad) were discussing the owner of this CarCompany Inc, LLC and one of you called him a “Poop-Head”. In light of this recent conversation, we have disabled all non-essential functions in your car until you send $150 to “President@NeedsMoreMoney.com”. If after 90 days this payment has not been received these functions will be permanently revoked until End of Life (Yours or Cars).

      Sincerely, Probably Elon Musk.

      ~CarAI is a service offered at no cost with a irrevocable revocable license. All data gathers with or without consent are the sole property of CarCampnay Inc, LLC. Subject to Terms and Conditions. May be updated at any time by CarCompany Inc, LLC without notification. Any legal issues are required by Arbitration only within the city limits of Pyongyang~

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        I did, but wait how does the other one work?

        EDIT: Nevermind, I got it. That’s funny. Now I’m happy I can’t spell lol