• john89@lemmy.ca
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    3 days ago

    This is fucking stupid.

    Our rulers are literally dictating who we can communicate with.

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      Imo it’s more sad than hilarious. US users and Chinese users meeting each other on the platform and discovering they are interesting people who actually have a lot in common sounds like what I’d wish the internet to be.
      It’s not surprising, and I get the irony, but I feel more sad than amused.

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        You know, the news about Chinese and American users comparing their worldviews seemed weird to me because it reads like this is the first time Chinese and American users have interacted and had the chance to talk “candidly”.

        My first thought was, “Why the fuck is this news? It’s not like Chinese users can’t interact on American platfor—”

        …oh. Right. The great firewall.

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        3 days ago

        I totally agree with you.

        We shouldn’t be cheering on segregation.

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      5 days ago

      I knew it was coming since that article yesterday about us Americans posting vids of 3D printed guns lmao

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      This was the turn of events anyone who knows anything about China and the CCP (and how closely they control businesses there) would have expected.

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      4 days ago

      TikTok is banned in China, so why would anyone ever expect this would be different in this case?

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        They have Douyin (it’s a carbon copy of tiktok). Rednote released a public statement welcoming US users, no evidence that what this article implies is being considered at all. The evidence is a reddit post. You are responding in agreement to a propaganda rag.

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          But TikTok is still banned by China… Chinese people cannot sign up for TikTok and communicate with the outside world.

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          They blocked the TikTok domain in China. What would you call that, if not a ban?

          You are naive if you believe they aren’t going to sever the communities. That was always going to happen.

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          Why is it a different product then? Does it allow the same content? Same algorithm?

          Or is it different, and not an actual carbo copy?

      • OBJECTION!@lemmy.ml
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        4 days ago

        Ashley Belanger May Be Embezzling Money From Ars Technica

        Just a few days after writing an article on Ars Technica about the possibility of foreign users on RedNote being walled off from Chinese users, rumors began swirling on Lemmy that she may soon decide to defraud her employer by transferring company money into her personal bank account.

        😝

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    There has been no official announcement that such a change is coming, but Reddit commenters speculated that possibly the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) was requiring a change to stop American TikTokers from using the app to influence Chinese citizens.

    Ah, that trustworthy and unbiased group of China experts that are Redditors

    Two sentences before this they were explaining quite clearly why chinese users might actually be bothered by the flood of american users and why they might want the ability to filter by IP region, but because some redditors speculated that the SeeSeePee doesn’t want the Americans to spread their freedom-loving germs to their country then that must be why they’d do it, if that rumor were to be proven true

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    They’re gonna build a firewall, and the US is gonna pay for it!

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    4 days ago

    So, I cannot inform the Chinese about Mao murdering over 70 million people who disagreed with him and his CCP thugs. What about the Tiananmen Square massacre?

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    It amazes me how people apparently can’t live without watching shitty videos all the time… Oh, well.

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      It’s an addiction. No other way to describe it. Like your coke dealer ran out so you gotta switch to crack instead.

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        It’s not really an ‘addiction.’ It’s a culture.

        People don’t value things that take time or effort anymore. All they want is their instant-gratification to forget about their shitty lives a little bit longer. Short-form video and posts provide this for them.

        It’s all according to plan to keep people apathetic until the day they die. That way, they never fight back against the people pulling their strings.

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      4 days ago

      Rednote with multiple SIMULTANEOUS video feeds sounds like a whole new level of brain rot

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      5 days ago

      I feel exactly the same way. It’s like they can’t imagine a world without it. When it’s banned they’ll have to fill their time just staring at the wall.

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      I find takes like this unfortunate. I learned SO much on TikTok. Accounts like gatenerd, jerrythink, kellyscleankitchen, softpourn, publicopinion, hankgreen, alexisanddean, thelawsayswhat, kylascan, and countless interior designers, architects, chefs, and all the others I can’t recall.

      There is no other platform like TikTok where you can get drawn in not just in minutes watched, but in knowledge gained. Wish you shared my experience.

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        I can understand your point until you get to the “there is no other platform like TikTok”. You lose me there.

        Hopefully this little outage scare helps you to diversify!

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          Honestly, there isn’t another platform that isn’t a step down. The algorithm that drives the For You Page is leaps and bounds ahead of Instagram and YouTube.

          The best analogy I can give is if Linux was banned for personal use in the US. Sure, you could use Windows or macOS; the later is even Unix based! However, it would be a downgrade for Linux users. Even something like FreeBSD wouldn’t be a seemless transition, and the communities that were built would take time to recover.

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        4 days ago

        Reading can accomplish the same thing, although it is a skill that has to be developed.

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        Edit: I see the influencers are on Lemmy since TT is going away and they are salty.

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          Eh. Most of these people are already wealthy from their parents and were just using their wealth to make more wealth by showcasing how wealthy they are to those who will never be wealthy.

          Living vicariously is a plague. I think less of anyone who does it.

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    I don’t even like TikTok but I’m so happy with how hard this whole thing is backfiring. Warms my heart

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    I tried to challenge some ideas in World News and I guess asking questions about Chinese censorship is xenophobic. Now I’m banned for not being pro Chinese censorship.

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      .ml

      There’s your problem. If they stated their rules, rather than forcing people to figure them out by trial and error, I’d have less of an issue with it. Like, lemmygrad is explicit in its intent and they state it outright in their rules. Lemmy.ml plays it too coy, and so comes off as incredibly manipulative.

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      Oh gosh, I thought you meant .world World News for a minute there. Yeah the problem is .ml, they’re tankies.

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        Those are other users’ comments. Not sure how those are relevant to JiveTurkey’s comments.

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          I wouldn’t take it seriously, they gave me a month long instance ban for saying a federal representative democracy is by definition a type of democracy.

          “American propaganda” or something.

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                  God, shut up nerd, like your red fascist bullshit and their one party elections were or are better. Do you want to hear that it’s a flawed system? It is. All states are and should be abolished.

                  Still a type of democracy, and still more democratic than anything Russia or China have ever managed.

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                  Uhhh yeah. The Constitution establishes a federal democratic republic form of government. That is, we have an indivisible union of 50 sovereign States. It is a democracy because people govern themselves. It is representative because people choose elected officials by free and secret ballot.

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        Those sound like comments on a different topic, specifically the story about Paris’ improvements in air quality lately (because they built bike infrastructure and partially banned cars). I had to remove nearly identical comments in the !fuckcars@lemmy.world thread on it, for the same reason.

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      To be fair, there are plenty of critical content. It’s just that they use coded language to avoid the censorship. (Probably not on XHS / RedNote though? It’s more of a Facebook equivalent.)