Summary

Donald Trump’s 2024 campaign has reignited fears among undocumented migrants with promises of “mass deportations” and migrant communities are bracing for uncertainty and a new wave of nativism.

His administration plans to target those deemed public safety or national security threats, potentially reinstating workplace raids and using military resources.

Advocates warn that “collateral arrests” could sweep up migrants without criminal records.

Many, like “Dreamers” protected under DACA, fear family separations, while others, such as Carlos in NYC, hope Trump’s economic policies might benefit them.

“A lot of Latinos, those who can vote, did so because they think he [Trump] can improve the economy. That would be very good for us too,” said Carlos, an undocumented Mexican who lives in New York City.

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    They will grab anyone they can get their hands on. Criminals will have the advantage that they know how to hide, and there are way more non-criminals, so Jose Average will be picked first, being the easiest target to fulfill the quota.

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    Aren’t criminals already being deported if they are caught? He was clear that he is after immigrants (in some speeches illegal, but in some even legal)

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    How can anyone listen to Trump’s racist rants about shit hole countries and walk away thinking “he doesn’t mean me”? He absolutely means you. There’s about to be a whole lot of faces meeting some very hungry leopards.

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    The trump admin couldn’t be bothered to keep the children and parents together while caging immigrants last time–why would anyone expect him to differentiate the legals from the illegals?

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    What part of “mass deportations” do people not understand? Trump told us what he’s going to do. His cabinet pick told us what he’s going to do. They’re going to do it.

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    They made “migrating” a crime, so, yeah, leopards…face…

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    Ummmmm Conservatives already see them as criminals because they are here “illegal”. By default all undocumented migrants are criminals.

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      Trump also said he’d aggressively deport and sort through the mistakes later. He’s going to deport legal immigrants too, and I very much doubt they’ll let them back in without an extensive legal battle. Which will never move forward because he’ll intentionally starve the court system (like congress already did at his order) so that realistically, they will never get through the system.

      Great fucking job giving Nazis free reign, you stupid, stupid, evil fuckers. You had a choice to fight nazis when it was easy. Just a vote. But you chose nazis, one way or another.

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        Ohhhhh I agree with you for the most part. But the last part?! Who exactly are you referring to as you? If you are chastising Democratic leadership 100% Anyone else other than literally Nazie’s (aka Trump, JD, the majority of RNC members and leaders, and some of their voters), shouldn’t be blamed.

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          Obviously, this statement was not targeting you specifically. “You” is targeted towards Trump voters and non-voters.

          We knew what was on the ballot. I don’t care that the DNC could have done better. When the choice is “meh” vs literal Nazis, you’re a damn nazi if you didn’t vote directly against them.

          I’m fucking done mincing words after voters gave them the House, Senate, POTUS, and all the god damn courts.

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    Anyone that thinks that it’s going to be only ‘criminals’ that get deported forget that crossing the border without documentation is a crime. Yeah, it’s a misdemeanor, but it’s still a crime, and the Trump administration is still going to deport them when they can.

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      Adjudicating whether or not someone is guilty of a crime, or in the US illegally, requires a trial. Doing that for millions of people all of a sudden within a system that’s already backed up by more than a year is completely impossible.

      In other words, they are absolutely talking about deporting innocent people of the wrong ethnicity without any attempt at due process, and anyone who thinks different is living in a dream world. And then, once they’re done with that batch, they plan to move on to other classes of undesirables.

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        requires a trial.

        Not for people that are undocumented. People that are not in the us legally get hearings, but that’s policy rather than law, IIRC. Due process gets a little weird here, because the process in question isn’t a matter of law or the constitution.

        Regardless - it’s not going to go well for anyone that thinks that he doesn’t mean them.

        The denaturalization concept–stripping naturalized citizens of citizenship–is fa, far scarier than deportation. Once you can strip citizenship from a naturalized citizen, and once you’ve eliminated birthright citizenship, you’ve got a roadmap for stripping citizenship from anyone.

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          Due process gets a little weird here

          That’s a strange way to say “asylum seekers don’t have rights because they’re not legally considered people by US law”…

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          You’re right, I should have said “requires a hearing.”

          It looks like there are less legal protections in place than I thought, and the “justice system” that’s holding the trial is provided by the DOJ. So you do get a hearing, but Trump has even more ability to make it into an unapologetic horror than I thought he did. That’s not good.

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        Maybe they’re going to hold them under detention while trying millions and millions of people. Might need to build new detention facilities, of course, some kind of camps where they can concentrate the population. It’s going to take a long time too, so in the name of government efficiency they can lease them out to businesses and farms for labor while they await their trials. Work sets you free.

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          These camps will probably be right out side of huge fields and factories that way they can work while awaiting trial. Work hard enough and please your master and you might even get to stay here. Of course not as a free man.

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        It always amazes me when people, even leftists, come up with arguments like „he won’t have enough judges to deport that many people“ or „camps need supplies. How would you do that in such a short amount of time for so many immigrants?“.

        These are plans by the same people that took children from their parents and put them into cages „supervised“ by thugs with batons. And they „lost“ a lot of kids in the process. And they bragged about it.

        If the rule of law gets absolutely destroyed by mass deportations/internments it’s a feature, not a bug to them. You don’t need judges if you have enough thugs who „just follow orders“ „for the greater good“.

        Likewise news of immigrants in camps lacking basic necessities, food and healthcare will just feed their lust for cruelty. And their base will be happy, because those immigrants „brought it upon themselves“, „can always go back to their home country if they don’t like it“ and „need to be a warning for others“.

        Nothing good will come of it. People here in Germany also though that Hitler guy was a bit of a joke, failed his coup attempt, and things „would never get THAT bad“. Spoiler: it did. And then some.

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    I’m worried they’re going to start raiding schools and daycares as well in order to force parents to turn themselves in or just to be malicious. A lot of children are going to be separated from their parents.

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      That would be right in line with their normal behavior. Seeing how many children they kidnapped in the previous Trump administration.

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    you all understand this is about racism, right? this is a giant dog whistle for rounding up non-white people and getting them the fuck out of their white nationalist dream.

    its not about crime, or which immigrants are good or bad. its about kicking out the brown peoples. its easy to manipulate racist voters. they are all ignorant cowards.

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      All those Muslim folks who voted for Trump to “punish” Harris are in for a rude awakening. This isn’t only about Hispanics.

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        I doubt there are a lot of illegal Muslims. Most “illegal” immigrants are from border countries.

        Deporting our DACA immigrants would be really bad for the economy, talk about brain drain and also illegal immigrant workers who contribute more to the economy than they extract.

        The leopards will be eating their own faces. I would need to look up numbers but fairly certain more republicans use illegal immigrant labor than democrats.

        Also, the spite and told you so banter is kind of offensive. “My candidate lost so now you have to suffer the consequences,” it’s very childish and not very thoughtful or helpful.

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      i think there’s so much discourse about this since Latin men voted, on the whole, for trump. there is a non zero number of people who, if trump implements his border control plan, voted for their own deportation