Anon: 2007
The music industry ca. 1981:
Also the book piracy that existed in universities through photocopying and sharing pages.
This is making a comeback with scanning.
Amazon was the place to buy manuals(art,hobby, do it yourself etc.). Now authors have pulled their books from print and expecting people to sign a subscription on patreon. Now there are sharks overpricing any remaining physical print second hand by 2000%.
pirates have scanned these books and selling access to uploaded jpgs for a fraction of what the manual would have cost had it just stayed in print.
So we left side b blank so you can help!
Kinda inverts inverted the causality of Netflix starting their own production and other companies pulling their licences. Netflix started their own production to survive the licences getting pulled, which was inevitable as soon as Netflix looked profitable.
They didn’t get greedy, they probably started out greedy, ran a good service to grab market share, then had to make moves to defend against the predictable greed of the incumbents.
It’s greedy turtles all the way down
This is basically it except the trick was Netflix wasn’t actually all that profitable based strictly off of customers to start. It was a long con. It was ostensibly funded by people placing a bet. They offered a service that wasn’t just disruptive, it was operating at a loss. People piled into the service so licences started to get dicey. Netflix started producing and filming, initially at independent rates amd sweetheart deals in my union territory because everybody looked at as being a little baby studio that needed nurturing and to be fair working a Netflix show back when it started had perks. They placed bets on creators who wanted to make something different. Not nessisarily great but different giving their production teams a lot of creative freedom. Paid lunches, cell allowance, sometimes better hours and crew gifts when a number of studios like Disney were pulling penny pinching bullshit and trying to pretend they were an independent studio to get lower rates while letting their producers act like skeeze.
Thing was it was a cuckoo all along.
They flushed the market with a business model sustained by outside money so everybody else started doing the same thing. It destroyed all the union and contract protections syndicated television once had particularly erasing residuals. That was the main thing. Creators used to make money off of the amalgamation of their lifetime work by being owed a small amount everytime a rerun was aired… But streaming didn’t do that. They had those sweetheart deals that made streaming services exempt from on demand access counting as replays. So you cut off the career curve of creators from building security and only paid them for stuff they made once turning them effectively gig worker.
Once everyone was playing by the same rules the funding at the top cut out because they got what they wanted out of it they started jacking prices, removing titles, selling advertising because what the hell were you going to do, go back to cable? Now the boom is over and our local Industry is a bloody dust bowl. My seniority has jumped up more in the past year than it has in the full ten years before as folk have been retiring or dropping from the union to find new careers.
Exactly this and more.
I’m not even pirating because it’s cheaper, or easier. I have near 100TB in storage, and it takes hours per week to search material, have it downloaded, checked, etc. I just am done with the marketing, the branding, the advertising, the bullshit rules. I just want to watch what I want to watch and media companies made this impossible so I’m forced to sail the high seas
Why not just… Automate that with an Arr stack? And use Jellyseer to find new and popular movies and shows.
Im looking into an arr stack but it seems there are a LOT of moving pieces. I’m technical enough to pull it off but also old enough to roll my eyes at seeing how many systems I’ll need to install, setup, configure, etc. sonar, bazaar, radarr, arrarr…
I dont suppose there is a single docker container to install that pulls and connects it all? I dont mind a bit of work but this sure seems a lot at first glance
There’s several that you can customize to your liking, and several megathreads about it on the old site we shall not speak of.
Thing is, the specific units you install can bedifferent depending on personal preference; I use qbittorrent instead of transmission for instance, Jellyfin instead of Plex, and so on.
Once you get it set up, though, everything else should go smoothly, and you’ll practically never have to do manual searches ever again (except those really niche shows nobody’s ever heard of).
There’s an example docker file from Rick45 on github, but as I noted, he uses stuff like Plex and Deluge instead. Feel free to just copy the example file and edit as needed for your preferred services.
Me, my preferred stack includes Sonarr, Radarr, Lidarr, Prowlarr, Jellyfin, qBittorrent, SurfShark, JellySeer, Flaresolver, and Organizer. Again, tweak as you’d like.
Wow that’s a lot.
How do you not think too much about hard drive failures 😅
Serious question though, how much do you spend on drives, they’re getting cheaper but it’s still around like 25€/TB where I live?
Not really worrying about it. Bought 5 20TB drives about a year ago, and a year from now I’ll buy 5 new ones
He spends about 2500€
100TB? Why?
Because its fun. Because i get obscure movies in high quality, maybe for posterity? I dunno, it’s a hobby. Why does anyone get a Warhammer 40K army?
Because that’s like 20,000 movies and I need two new movies to watch every night until the day I die, thanks.
More like 2500 and 250 complete series at the quality that I’m getting them.
Yeah, I won’t ever will watch half of that but at the moment it’s a nice hobby
I know when you can get petabytes, why stop at 100TB.
Build your own Netflix gets expensive after a while.
I found I watched a lot more once I installed Jellyfin rather than faffing around with files and folders whenever I wanted to watch anything.
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lol 2007.
Definitely my reaction lol try 2001
Hell, we were on Napster in 99.
Dling metallica…
Usenet early/mid 90’s. A huge stack of floppy disks and a few weeks of all night downloads so dad didn’t lose his shit over the telephone screaming at him.
I miss that most of all
Bootlegs in the 80s
Yeah I think I was using Morpheus then Kazaa…2000/2001?
These fucking dumbass kids. Whyyyyy won’t they just open up a book-shaped website and read the actual history?
Of course I say that in a country that literally forgot what happened just four years ago so…nvmd, back to “human race deserves itself” mode.
Netflix didn’t get greedy (well not in that way). The movie companies wanted to make their own platform, which would have left Netflix with nothing. So they had to become their own production company. They said “we have to become a production company faster than production companies become streaming companies”.
2007 ? Everybody around me was pirating every single piece of media in 2000 and we were late to the party
Napster was a household name and made mp3 piracy mainstream in 1999!
The golden days of the net 🥲
People were pirating games over bbs in the 80s. I have a shoebox of 5.25" floppies for the commodore 64 with hand written labels.
Don’t copy that floppy
Take that 3.5 floppy you got in the mail and break the tab so that you could read / write.
Doom and Wolf3d for my buddies. Rise of the Triad.
I really wish I was a consultant for these fucking jokers.
Back when Disney+ was just “Rumor has it Disney wants to launch their own Netflix-like streaming service.”, I called this shit. I said “Well that’s just going to cause this whole thing to fall apart, no one’s going to juggle 50 different streaming services just to be able to find something to watch.”
And I was fucking right.
The only ethical streaming service is Tubi as it doesn’t charge relying on ads alone, and it’s a neat little bonus that Tubi has actively aided in the restoration of lost media.
If it aint on Tubi, then I’m going to yo-ho-ho with a bottle of fuck you.
just going to cause this whole thing to fall apart
Disney Plus generated $8.4 billion revenue in 2023, an 13% increase year-on-year.
lol
Yes, but they also brought back piracy, eroded faith in the brand, and while Disney+ is making money…
Disney’s newer efforts are kinda showing it’s not the powerhouse it used to be. With the only thing they really have going for them are the legacy media that they’re holding hostage on a platform, they arbitrarily removes things from time to time for seemingly no reason (the Willow series for example, which makes very little sense since that was original to Disney+ to begin with and for some reason Buzz Lightyear of Star Command isn’t on the platform despite all the other Toy Story media being present… and there are several episodes of The Simpsons that are just straight up memory-holed; most infamously the Michael Jackson episode)
If this trend continues, Disney will be left with people pirating the legacy media that people at home have shaky access to at best (Monthly fee for content that may be removed with no notice and for no reason), especially as prices soar and wages stay the same, and interest in newer project dwindling.
Or to be blunt, one of the most classic blunders: High short term profits at the cost of being unsustainable in the long term.
Sure it’s easy to think of Disney as laughing its way to the bank, but… think of it this way.
Disney’s been king of the world, especially in animation (Which has been getting sidelined in favor of live-action. I guarantee if Mufasa was animated it’d be running neck and neck with Sonic 3 instead of lagging behind). They’re a luxury limousine running fast on a road that has no other cars (because Disney bought those cars), and the tank’s running out of gas. You won’t know it’s running on fumes until it comes to a complete stop, but at the speed it’s going it will take awhile…
And the second it stops, a simple fuel service isn’t going to get it running again. It will get running again, too many people need it to run. So they’ll call a mechanic, and it will take to the streets once more.
Is Disney cooked? of course not, but they will see a return of their darkest days. A decade or two of the Disney brand no longer being that shining seal of quality people take it for.
I see it comparable to Nintendo’s Wii-U days when the company was a joke with no 3rd Party support and consumers who weren’t even sure what the Wii-U was even supposed to be. (Too many passed on it, believing it to be an overpriced gimmicky tablet add-on for the Wii… The launch title being NSMBU instead of something fans hadn’t already seen before I think is a big part of the blame for that.)
Nintendo didn’t wind up in bankruptcy, but they’d need to reinvent the wheel via the Switch, win back 3rd Party Support, and rekindle the faith of the fans, to get back to being a power house.
Don’t forget another thing in common between Nintendo and Disney: lawsuits. And obsession with intellectual property. Not required to be against their own fans, but it is preferred.
At this point I’m surprised I haven’t been sued for wearing a Waddle Dee hat that I paid in public. (I don’t have the Kirby License)
I guarantee if Mufasa was animated it’d be running neck and neck with Sonic 3 instead of lagging behind).
But mufasa IS animated
It’s also shit. Animation only goes so far.
Say what you will about Sonic. No one involved in those films is having a bad time. There’s a lotta heart there and it shows.
Mufasa is shlok incarnate.
I love that IGN reviewed both movies and gave Sonic a 6 out of 10 despite saying it’s the “Best movie of the franchise” and that Jim Carey was amazing as both Dr. Robotnik and Dr. Robotnik. (For the record Sonic 1 and 2 were given a 7)
And that Mufasa was given an 8 out of 10 despite IGN’s review struggling to come up with anything nice to say.
It not only validates my own (low) opinion of IGN and their track record of hating on Sonic just because it’s Sonic, but it makes me laugh. We’re seeing big corporations slowly losing control.
They can’t tell us what we should like and not like anymore. The market has never been freer to decide what movies they like and what games to play. (Balatro being the only real game at the Awards with Remake, DLC, and Tech Demo being the other options is kind of hillarious)
Also it’s kinda weird, a movie inspired by Hamlet that demands to be taken seriously is considered low grade shlock, and an adaptation of a twenty year old old video game who’s greatest literary contribution is children’s comic books made to promote games, toys, and t-shirts is considered the PEAK of Cinema… Especially when such a thing is actually a sign of society recovering from brainwashing and not falling deeper into it.
I can hear Ebert rolling in his grave and I’m here for it.
I’ll also say this, Sonic 3 is a god damn masterpiece. It got me to take Maria’s death seriously.
In the games Maria Robotnik is such a shallow one-note character who I don’t even dislike, because there isn’t enough of her to form an opinion on one way or another.
Now sure, I’m happy to slap the shit out of anyone who’d dishonor her memory, but… I’m doing that as Shadow, to SHADOW she’s the only real friend he’s ever had. To me, she’s just a cheap attempt to get invested to take a story trying WAY too hard to be grimdark when all I really wanna do is go fast and
eat assgrab rings.Most Sonic characters serve a gameplay function, so all you really need is their archetype. Flying tech guy, Punchy boy, Lovesick Hammer Girl, Kicky boob lady, Skatebird with a skateboard, Trunks-from-DBZ and his crazy physics engine! (Tails, Knuckles, Amy, Rouge, Jet, and Silver)
Shadow however needs his narrative to back him up or else he’s just “Emo Sonic”
So I’ve seen Maria die many, many times, and honestly it keeps getting funnier as she slowly devolved from “Cheap tearjerker bait” to “Meme”
Sonic 3 gave Maria a character, actually showed her bonding with Shadow, and took her so seriously that if she were in any other movie franchise; This would be a film about a girl who makes friends with an alien and with the power of friendship is able to show everyone that he means no harm, and that it doesn’t matter what you look like, and all that with everyone singing a silly song over a campfire…
Sorry Maria, but this aint your faerie tale, it’s Shadow’s grim fable.
So when she died, she did something no Maria story, not in games, comics, or anime has ever done before. Even though I knew it was coming she made me feel, shock, anger, and misery to such an extent that it was all too easy to sympathize with Shadow’s pain.
You know what I mean
Given Disney’s stranglehold on animation and general lack of interest in high quality 2d animation it’s been quite interesting seeing the market for high quality foreign animation grow so much. At one time Studio Ghibli relied on Disney for distribution in the US, but now they’re a name that can stand on its own (and with the gkids acquisition/merger we should be seeing more Japanese animation hitting American screens and theatres)
I have to expect foreign and indie animation studios to continue to grow in market share as Disney continues to ignore 2d animation and continues it’s overly rapid production schedules that don’t allow for the quality.
Simply put, you watch a non-disney animated film or even just any of Disney’s animated films from before they killed hand drawn animation and there’s so much quality lost, where you go from every single frame being it’s own masterpiece of artwork to just enough set dressing to not look out of place but good luck finding a still you’d want to hang on your wall.
I give it about 10 years before Disney is forced to course correct. Just long enough for kids who haven’t seen a good animated film released by Disney their entire childhoods to become teens/adults and start paying to consume competitors content instead
I give it five
And they somehow just became profitable… while also already legacy owning thr vast majority of content
I can’t prove the data wrong, but I will say it’s not particularly uncommon for businesses to move money around in an effort to make new product seem better or more profitable than it is. Tons of incentives to do so, little reason not to.
Also since you quote revenue not profit, they were still net unprofitable as of 2023 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/streaming-profit-report-netflix-disney-warners-paramount-nbcu-1235868631/
it’s not particularly uncommon for businesses to move money around in an effort to make new product seem better or more profitable than it is.
Didn’t Xbox do something like this? I heard they converted all remaining Xbox Live subscribers to Xbox Game Pass.
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That’s a weird as heck christmas song.
The One Piece is real!.. and can be seen on [Streaming Site REDACTED]
Pluto is also free with ads
2007? I remember watching a DivX of The Matrix back in 99. Prior to that I remember watching south park episodes in the RealPlayer.
Those RealPlayer Southpark episodes were 15mb and had 8 pixels
South Park’s graphics were so bad back then that probably almost sufficed.
I watched the entirety of Blair witch project the week before it came out in a real player at 300 by 200 pixels. I kept rotating between watching it thumbnail sized and watching it regular player sized. Both were equally inferiorating
Yeah this was going on before that. Media Piracy really set-off in the late 90s when DSL, and cable, internet services became mainstream. Also Netflix started making their own content in response to a growing number of competing services, all fighting over the same pool of production companies’ work, and having exclusive rights to one IP, or another, rather than other services being the result of netflix making their own content.
I watched Key The Metal Idol in 56 kbps. Downloaded, of course, because trying to stream using RealPlayer never fucking worked. I’m pretty sure I could fire up a server and client over my home network, to-day, and it’d still pause with “Buffering…” twice per minute.
Anyway, I’m discussing video on Game Boy in another thread, and dial-up quality video was still ridiculous.
Yes, but you are old as a rock.
Those times are lost in the unknowable pre-history of what we call “the internet” today.We’re just as stable!.. Maybe.
it would certainly make me feel better about myself if I knew rocks complain about their backs as much as I do
How do I know you’re not just a rock in a trench coat, complaining about human foibles like back pain to blend in???
Actually, how can I be sure I’m not?
Dun Dunn dunnnnnnn
Gentle reminder that i2p exists where torrents can be downloaded anonymously.
I2p is great , definitely the future
Yeah except nobody fucking lets you join lol
Join i2p? What do you mean?
Private torrents is what I was talking about. Starting to wonder if I responded to the wrong comment need to review the thread now lol
I’m just as confused as you are
so right, I can’t believe how right you are
First rule of usenet. Dont talk about usenet
Good point, fixed
Dude private torrent groups on Usenet are shutting their doors to outsiders everywhere and building motes lmao where have you been. If you don’t know someone really well it’s almost impossible to join one. The two I’m in say no to newbies constantly.
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Could you try explaining your experience instead of being an insufferable, patronizing ass? Or is that too much to ask?
Why be so combative?
Edit:_why he be?
fuck streaming, long live piracy
All I’m going to say is every computer I had was equipped with 2 disk drives until 2010. Elder Millennials and Gen X know why.
I really don’t know why. I never had that.
For what - burning CD to CD? But u don’t need 2 drives for that, u would just create an iso and burn it using same drive.My first home computer was an Apple IIgs. It had no hard drive. You need to use a “boot disk” that loaded the operating system, and then once that was in RAM, you could swap out that disk for the one with your program on it. The OS looked a little like early MacOS; it was called ProDOS. You could technically use it to copy floppy disks (the program for that was “Copy II Plus”), but it took forever, because the copy program had to copy a chunk of the disk into RAM, then get you to swap to the target disk, write that chunk, get you to swap back to the first disk, load a new chunk, get you to swap disks again… It generally took about 40 swaps for a 3.5" high-density (by which they meant 800kb) floppy. It was incredibly tedious. If you had two disk drives, though, it could just work continuously without needing to wait for you to swap disks all the time.
It was more of a convenience thing. If you had 1 drive you had to babysit the read portion to then install the CD-R after. If you had two it was just load both and carry on for 20 minutes and come back to it.
That was just if you were burning a copy and not ripping. But you’re right it wasn’t necessary. I just remember more than once wanting a second drive so I didn’t have to sit and wait to put the CD-R in after.
It went marginally faster
So you can play videogames while burning disks? Idk.
Don’t tell me you copied that floppy
2007… that guy was late to the game. And before this we had burned CDs and Zip Drives
Literally the only thing missing is full migration to H265 or AV1 with a solid bitrate.
It’s still a bit inconsistent due to hardware acceleration capabilities and final file size targets.
Most torrents are too compressed or too huge.
Luckily bandwidth and storage is cheaper than ever, so going for full size quality rips is viable for many.
My I present https://trash-guides.info/
Once Intel ARC cards are supported natively in UnRaid, I’ll be transcoding everything to AV1.
Hardware encoding for AV1 is really all that has been missing for it to be widely used for homelab setups.
To someone not knowing anything, how big a deal is the difference?
Super oversimplified, but take an imaginary 1GB video file and it will compress roughly to the size below with minimal visual degradation.
H.264 -> H.265 -> AV1
1GB -> 600MB -> 350MB
Thanks!
Is it (more) cpu expensive to decode the AV1?
Yes. If you don’t have hardware that supports AV1 decode, it gets sent to the CPU instead.
For homelab stuff, the responsibility falls on the server to transcode the media to whichever format the client device requests. That usually means being able to have ~2 simultaneous AV1 streams and maxing out the CPU.
With hardware decode, you could have 10+ streams.
Solid bitrate? I used 400 kb/s AV1 constant bitrate for HD anime, 750 for HD realfilm, results in 300 MB and 500 MB files for 2 hours video, no artifacts. Why does Handbrake default to 6000 kb/s?
Netflix entered into the already existing sphere of greed based commodification / exploitation that legacy media created decades ago. these legacy media conglomerates (owned circularly by the same big players in wall street black rock, vangaurd, state street et all.) dominate and control multiple industries and now Netflix is just part of that same ecosystem amassing wealth for their own self centered agenda without much, if any oversight at all. Theres just few greedy old cigar smoking men or rather boardrooms lead by these same men controling a majority of the world. Blackrock, blackston, state street and vanguard circularly own about 20% of disney and they own around the same percentage of netflix as well. Nevermind all the other media outlets they own large shareholding positions of. Greed is not the accidental result its the primary objective
I’m doing my part 🫡
