• Skullgrid@lemmy.world
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    so the hope inspiring message is “you can put notes into bombs you’re forced to make and be thrown at the people trying to rescue you if you’re a slave”?

    EDIT : And who are the people forcing them to labor?

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      “Even in the worst circumstances, there is something you can do”

      “Yeah, but, like, why are there bad circumstances? Have you ever thought of that?”

      My dude, when the fuck do you think people need hope? When they’re jerking off?

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        because this post is basically trying to make Nazis throwing bombs at the allies seem like an aspirational situation, and I don’t want to value the things nazis did, because the current authoritarian world is disgusting.

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          I think you are reading this entirely wrong. Throwing the bombs isn’t the inspirational part. It’s the bad part. The inspirational part is that the Czech forced laborers are rebelling the best they can against the Nazi regime by sabotaging the bombs they are forced to make.

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            sure. that part is left ambigious, since “the best we can do” can refer to sabotage or “the highest quality bombs we could make”

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              I’m sorry, but did you read the post? Do you think that the highest quality explosive ordnance they could make would involve zero explosives being loaded in them, with zero of them exploding? The post leaves it completely unambiguous.

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                Do you think that the highest quality explosive ordnance they could make would involve zero explosives being loaded in them, with zero of them exploding

                The highest quality bombs we could make… with no explosives

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            Who is going to throw things at American things in 1943 in germany? Nazis.

            Spoilers : Nazis are bad. The Nazis are bad because they are authoritarian. There are many authoritarian led countries in the world today. So many, that it is exhausting.

            In the past, maybe it would have been edgy fun to think of heroes from the “enemy side”. There are too many today, so trying to find hope and heros in Nazis is not fun anymore.

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              Does a nazi putting a gun to your head and telling you to work making ammunition makes you a nazi? Because that’s what happened. Forced conscription happened. The world isn’t black and white. Allies committed war crimes too. There were good people forced into bad situations too.

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                Does a nazi putting a gun to your head and telling you to work making ammunition makes you a nazi?

                The only way this makes them the good guys is if the note means they sabotaged the bomb making. Everything else surrounding it is horrid.

                EDIT : The text can be interpreted as either : “We sabotaged the bombs for you” or “we don’t have explosives to put in the bombs”. From my understanding, it could go either way.

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                In the past, maybe it would have been edgy fun to think of heroes from the “enemy side”. There are too many today, so trying to find hope and heros in Nazis is not fun anymore.

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      EDIT : And who are the people forcing them to labor?

      It’s a real mystery, that one